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Debian 9 only 64bit

Postby san-claudio » 09 May 2016 20:40

Debian 9 non supporterà alcune architetture a 32-bit
http://www.lffl.org/2016/05/debian-9-no ... 2-bit.html

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Re: Debian 9 only 64bit

Postby grizzler » 09 May 2016 21:19

No, that's an incorrect interpretation of Ben Hutchings' recent e-mail about that subject. The 686 should be a dead give-away. That's still about 32 bit architecture. What he wrote simply means the older 32 bit processors will no longer be supported.

[Sorry, it's late and I'm too tired to provide a translation, even with Google translate, or a link to Hutchings mail. I'll try to do that tomorrow.]

Edit
Finding the link wasn't as much work as I expected as the mail is still in my Thunderbird: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-a ... 00001.html
Check the "i386 architecture" in the title.
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Re: Debian 9 only 64bit

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 10 May 2016 05:31

As a precaution of that mail I've downloaded the 486 (wheezy) and 586 (jessie) linux-image and linux-header packages. Don't know if that is of any use in the future.


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Re: Debian 9 only 64bit

Postby grizzler » 10 May 2016 06:29

The i586 processors (the original Pentiums) were marketed from 1993 to 1999 (i686 is from 1995). I wonder how many machines with that kind of processor are still in use today.

By the way, you'd need the related support tools as well. Just the headers and images will be of little use if the compiler you build kernel modules with doesn't support that specific microarchitecture (see the third paragraph in Hutchings' mail).
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Re: Debian 9 only 64bit

Postby Zill » 10 May 2016 11:13

I'm still running a 32-bit Celeron 1.00 (Coppermine) here, circa 2001...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... 8180_nm.29
http://ark.intel.com/products/27164

The OS (Wheezy) reports the kernel as:

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roger@ibm:~$ uname -a
Linux ibm 3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.78-1 i686 GNU/Linux
I never quite figured out why both "-486" and "i686" are listed... :?

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Re: Debian 9 only 64bit

Postby kurotsugi » 10 May 2016 14:12

IIRC debian specifically build one kernel for each architecture. in wheezy it was 486, 586, 686 (for 32 bit) and 64-bit series (CMIIW). hence, explain the kernel name 3.2.0-4-486. I think the later number 686 means that your cpu arch is actually 686. it means that you're using kernel 486 on your 686 processor. the kernel was always backward compatible (i.e: similar with you can run 32bit kernel on 64bit procs).

virtually debian already did all the dirty job. the only things has to be done is giving warning for jessie user to not upgrade his system if their processor is not 686 series. as for other 32bit user, they need to use kernel 686 if they want to safely upgrade his system to stretch.


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