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woodsman
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Remove HAL packages

Postby woodsman » 16 Jul 2014 23:26

Was the latest UP supposed to remove the HAL packages? That did not happen on my system.

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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby ScottQuier » 17 Jul 2014 02:37

Yes, it was supposed to remove hal and hal-info.

It sounds like you didn't get the pre-update script to run for you. Please take a look at the OP here --> http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4303

Doing this should get things working for you.
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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby kurotsugi » 17 Jul 2014 06:55

hal is deprecated. you'll get warn on boot if you use hal.

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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby Orbmiser » 17 Jul 2014 14:03

kurotsugi wrote:hal is deprecated. you'll get warn on boot if you use hal.
Yep got the freedesktop.org stream of warnings,etc... And wondering if this is the same issue.
Which I took care of with one commmand. And rebooted errors gone.

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sudo apt-get remove --purge hal hal-info
Which seemed to take care of the issue.
http://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php ... top#p33583

Is this about the same issue?
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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby ScottQuier » 17 Jul 2014 14:48

The July UP installed systemd (Debian is replaying sysvinit with systemd and we're following right along). If you would like to use systemd as your init look to this thread (the OP, in particular) for one way to get it done --> http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php? ... 14&p=20465

Not much speed improvement in the startup (samba startup is the long pole in that tent), but the shutdown is really quite snappy.
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systems is risky at best and entails serious compatibility
problems; usually it's the best way to destroy an install"

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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby grizzler » 18 Jul 2014 09:57

marko wrote:it needs to make sure the installer works.
That's just the point. Part of the instructions was getting a fixed updatemanager on your system.
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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby ScottQuier » 18 Jul 2014 11:09

I was going to post here my thoughts relating to the compliants about the Update Manager and the Installer and decided they were distinctly off-topic.

However, I did post them here --> http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4349

Enjoy! :D :mrgreen:
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systems is risky at best and entails serious compatibility
problems; usually it's the best way to destroy an install"

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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby afab4 » 18 Jul 2014 11:49

Anyone who uses Amazon Prime for viewing streaming video is not going to be happy if hal is removed. Remove hal and the Flash player in Prime will no longer work. This has been a documented problem now in Ubuntu and other Debian derivatives for several months. When I read this post I immediately put hal and its dependencies on hold. Up until now, SolydX has been the only distro I have found that still had hal installed.
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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby kurotsugi » 18 Jul 2014 17:39

the reason why hal got removed is because it is no longer maintained in upstream. the decision is made by debian. we didn't make any decision regarding hal.

anyway, the fact that hal is removed from debian doesn't means that you can't keep it. you still can use hal if you want. the only drawback is that you get warn message on boot. that's all. new user also can't install hal since it's no longer in debian's repo. you'll need to install it from somewhere else. the hal in previous UP is the same with the one in debian wheezy. I guess you can grab that package from there.

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Re: Remove HAL packages

Postby ScottQuier » 19 Jul 2014 10:40

Thee completely off-topic posts (woodsman, kurotsugi, grizzler and three or four others) moved here --> http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4349
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systems is risky at best and entails serious compatibility
problems; usually it's the best way to destroy an install"


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