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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby dhave » 13 Sep 2013 16:45

Leaphorn wrote:
dhave wrote:Even though the updater shows that the system is updated (SolydX) with 2013.09.06 update pack applied, "uname -a" shows the kernel running is actually 3.9.8-1, not 3.10-2. I assume this is related to the nvidia module problem cited above, but I'm a noob when it comes to Debian and its derivatives.

Did you reboot your system? The kernel cannot be replaced in-situ. When restarting your system, you will get a selection of (at least) 2 kernels to boot 3.9 and 3.10 with 3.10 being the new default.

Cheers!
Yes, I had rebooted, but I did goof up in that I had not manually edited my grub.cfg to reflect the kernel update. I don't have grub installed on the same drive where I have SolydX installed. Instead, I boot via uefi from my main drive and have grub as one of the boot options. Convoluted, I know, but this lets me boot Arch Linux directly via uefi without using grub.

Anyway, after manually updating grub.cfg on my boot drive, I'm at least getting the updated kernel running.

But I still have the nvidia problem, which means that, while the SolydX kernel is now updated, the compatible nvidia module isn't installing, so the system doesn't start X. When I try to install nvidia-kernel-dkms from the command line (no X running, in other words), I get the same error message I cited above:

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dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-dkms (--configure):
 Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
 reinstall it before attempting configuration.
I wonder if anyone else running an nvidia card has managed to complete the update successfully.

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby escolar » 13 Sep 2013 16:54

dhave wrote: But I still have the nvidia problem, which means that, while the SolydX kernel is now updated, the compatible nvidia module isn't installing, so the system doesn't start X. When I try to install nvidia-kernel-dkms from the command line (no X running, in other words), I get the same error message I cited above:

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dpkg: error processing nvidia-kernel-dkms (--configure):
 Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
 reinstall it before attempting configuration.
Try aptitude, it manages dependences better than apt-get:

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sudo aptitude purge nvidia-kernel-dkms
sudo aptitude install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-xconfig
sudo reboot
Althought I'm not sure if it will work

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby dhave » 13 Sep 2013 16:55

O.K., I got the nvidia module installed for the updated kernel by doing this from outside of X (X wasn't launching):

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sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-kernel-dkms
This was in instructions from the SolydX guys for a previous update. Automated procedures are great ... until they're not. ;)

EDIT: Actually, this is in instructions for the current update (2013.09.06), but related to updating Apache (which I don't use). But I applied it to my situation since my specific problem was getting the nvidia module to install.

Anyway, I'll write this off to user error, since I don't see other people having this problem.

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 13 Sep 2013 17:02

ajpat3 wrote:Upgraded SolydX today, everything went well . Thank you everyone.
Moved your post to a more appropriate topic.

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION] - Plymouth

Postby iain1940 » 13 Sep 2013 18:56

Schoelje said
I don't know what systems you have, but I had a user having problems with the PAE kernel and Plymouth:
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1436
Perhaps you can try to disable Plymouth for your kernel as mentioned in my post there.
I'm another one with the Plymouth (PAE?) problem.

After updating this afternoon (apparently successfully) - when I rebooted the start-up stopped with a 'Plymouth failed .....' .
(after the 1st SolydX logo page was displayed)
This happened with new new kernel and the older one.
Since I backed up the 'system' partition with Clonezilla before updating I was able to restore and continue (without the updates).

I've got a 4-core I5
Sorry no more technical information - I was in a hurry and restored fairly quickly.
I'll have another go soon when I've worked out how to disable Plymouth (no 'dpm' program)

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby zerozero » 13 Sep 2013 19:35

kyodev wrote:I see the problem. if my sources.list begins with comments, it fails:

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#testing solydxk
#deb http://packages.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import kdenext community testing
#deb http://debian.solydxk.com/testing testing main contrib non-free
#deb http://debian.solydxk.com/testing/multimedia testing main non-free
#deb http://debian.solydxk.com/security testing/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/solydxk/packages/ solydxk main upstream import community
deb http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/solydxk/debian/production testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/solydxk/debian/production/multimedia testing main non-free
deb http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/solydxk/debian/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
if source.list have no comments, mirrors or not, it works
if comments are at the end, it works, but the comments are deleted when editing preferences.
I know, it's better to use sources.d/ ;)
kyodev
in the end of the day this post might get lost in the middle of noise :P
i would recommend that you open a separate topic in the bug control section
Thanks
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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby zerozero » 13 Sep 2013 19:46

TeaSwigger wrote:Unfortunately, the update has gone rather badly on both my PC and the install on my sisters' PC. :? KDE won't load (to get online I'm using fluxbox, which is working ok). After the splash sticks around a while, a load of bug crash notices (for seemingly everything) come up instead of the desktop. In fluxbox, some KDE apps work and some (Dolphin, Gwenview) don't. No idea what's wrong. I tried a new user in case it was user config, but no joy.
This looks like a partial upgrade.
i don't know if is too late (saw in a latter post that you would reinstall) but you could try (while logged in flux)

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

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sudo dpkg --configure -a

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sudo apt-get -f install

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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
(if there's any change and konsole output it would be also good to save it and share with us)
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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby Stefan40 » 13 Sep 2013 20:54

Hello,

thank you for the great work. With the new UP 2013.09.06 i can install the amd driver for my graphic card and it works!!!

Very good job!!!!

Now i have found the "Best-of-the-best" OS for me. Debian with KDE and almost the latest software.

Keep on rolling! :-)

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 13 Sep 2013 21:15

Stefan40 wrote:Hello,

thank you for the great work. With the new UP 2013.09.06 i can install the amd driver for my graphic card and it works!!!

Very good job!!!!

Now i have found the "Best-of-the-best" OS for me. Debian with KDE and almost the latest software.

Keep on rolling! :-)

Stefan
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I'm glad you like it.


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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby zerozero » 13 Sep 2013 21:49

Stefan40 wrote:thank you for the great work. With the new UP 2013.09.06 i can install the amd driver for my graphic card and it works!!!
Hello Stefan, welcome to the SolydXK forums and thanks for the good news 8-)
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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby helmsdeeper » 14 Sep 2013 03:45

My Solydk 32bit upgraded successfully using the Update Manager :D

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby Crewp » 14 Sep 2013 09:44

A few problems with the Up for Solydk 64bit first missing icons in the system tray, no sound, also systems hangs on shutdown. I reverted to the 3.9 kernel, and all works well again, don't really know where all the trouble is. ? :shock:

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 14 Sep 2013 09:48

Crewp wrote:A few problems with the Up for Solydk 64bit first missing icons in the system tray, no sound, also systems hangs on shutdown. I reverted to the 3.9 kernel, and all works well again, don't really know where all the trouble is. ? :shock:
Could you do a dist-upgrade again (booted into the new "bad" kernel) to check if there is anything wrong or missing?

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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Also check /var/log/syslog for any errors.


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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby kyodev » 14 Sep 2013 09:58

zerozero wrote: kyodev
in the end of the day this post might get lost in the middle of noise :P
i would recommend that you open a separate topic in the bug control section
ok sorry, but can you explain me what is the policy of this topic? it seemed to me that we could use for (small) problems with production update? no?

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 14 Sep 2013 10:19

kyodev wrote:
zerozero wrote: kyodev
in the end of the day this post might get lost in the middle of noise :P
i would recommend that you open a separate topic in the bug control section
ok sorry, but can you explain me what is the policy of this topic? it seemed to me that we could use for (small) problems with production update? no?
There is no policy, but I think he wants to say that if the issue persists, it's better to open a new topic, because this topic, with its posts of many different subjects, is not suited for intensive communication and problem solving.


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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby excollier » 14 Sep 2013 11:47

Updated this morning (SolydK) and the only "problem" I have is no welcome tune when it starts. Suits me fine. all else seems ok though, so far. Thanks.

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby kyodev » 14 Sep 2013 12:15

update solydK this morning, all is good (kernel, kde, pae, nvidia 304...). super!

only a small issue:
in updatemanager, infos update pack, I see always:
last Upadate pack:2013.08.06,
none Update available

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cat /var/log/updatemanager.packlevel
2013.08.06

dpkg -l updatemanager
ii  updatemanager          1.4.3            all              Update Manager

uname -a
Linux 1201nl 3.10-2-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.10.7-1 (2013-08-17) i686 GNU/Linux

cat /usr/lib/solydxk/updatemanager/updatemanager.log
14-09-2013 12:30:18 UM.checkUpVersion             DEBUG     packlevel = /var/log/updatemanager.packlevel | lastUp = 2013.08.06
14-09-2013 12:30:18 UM.init                       DEBUG     self.newUp = False
14-09-2013 12:30:18 UM.init                       DEBUG     self.serverUpVersion = None
14-09-2013 12:30:18 UM.init                       DEBUG     self.localUpVersion = 2013.08.06
14-09-2013 12:30:18 UM.main                       INFO      Launching updatemanager in user...
14-09-2013 12:30:20 AutomaticRefreshThread.run    DEBUG     Auto-refresh timer is going to sleep for 0 days, 0 hours, 15 minutes
14-09-2013 12:30:20 RefreshThread.run             INFO      Actualisation...
14-09-2013 12:30:20 RefreshThread.run             INFO      Recherche de la liste des mises à jour en cours...
14-09-2013 12:31:08 RefreshThread.run             INFO      Votre système est à jour
14-09-2013 12:31:08 RefreshThread.run             INFO      Refresh finished

sample of cat /var/log/updatemanager.history:
2013.09.14 08:54:33	firmware-realtek	0.39	0.40
2013.09.14 08:54:34	kde-baseapps	4:4.10.5-0r0.1	4:4.11.1-90r1
2013.09.14 08:54:40	linux-headers-686-pae	3.9+49	3.10+51
2013.09.14 08:54:40	linux-image-686-pae	3.9+49	3.10+51
is this serious doctor?

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 14 Sep 2013 12:47

updatemanager.packlevel is deprecated from this version of UM.
It should have generated a new file but that didn't happen in your case.
Run this command as root:

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echo "2013.09.06" > /usr/lib/solydxk/updatemanager/up.hist
Quit and restart UM.


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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby cofiRS » 14 Sep 2013 12:49

Excellent job on the update pack!
Updgraded SolydX yesterday, went smooth as silk :)
Only issue, but expected one, was with nvidia drivers from their website. They were actually in use after reboot to new kernel, but with Direct Rendering Off. Reinstalling them fixed it. Everything else is 100% ok. :)

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Re: UP 2013.09.06 06:00 UTC [PRODUCTION]

Postby ScottQuier » 14 Sep 2013 14:57

I've just updated two different computers and had zero issues. I prefer to use the terminal rather than the Update Manager; I just like to see what's happening as it happens. So I used the commands:

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sudo update
sudo dist-upgrade
sudo reboot
If it matters, I have Plymouth disabled (again, because I like to see what's happening).

Some people seem to have issues with their Nvidia card on reboot. Not me; mine worked flawlessly. Sound and video (used youtube and Exaile for testing purposes) works great. The biggie for me is that Darktable MUST run as editing RAW digital images is the primary use to which I put my computers. Everything is just peachy!
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