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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 04 Dec 2013 07:33

UM did take care of your Nvidia drivers the way it always did, but with the package changes (drivers were moved to a new legacy package) things got messy. Your previous package should have been uninstalled by the new, but they didn't, and you ended up having two conflicting driver packages on your system. That's why removing all Nvidia drivers, and letting DDM install the right ones again, was the only thing you could do.

What we've learned from this issue, is that it might be wise to uninstall the Nvidia drivers all together next time they release a new legacy driver package, and before we update the system.


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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby fleabus » 04 Dec 2013 11:05

Fargo --
Fargo wrote:Wait a minute. Are you saying that the UM should have worked without the need for the Nvidia script? ... is that how UM is already supposed to work and I just had a rare bad experience? It just seemed like a lot of people had NVIdia issues.
Ideally, yes that's how it's supposed to work:
zerozero wrote:...our UM performs pre and post-upgrade scripts ... all the UM users have to do is click away...
The nvidia folks got us all a good one last time! Including me! :D

I have an nvidia 9600M GT, and had lotsa wild happenings along with others last time.

However this time my testing UP went extremely well. I did not need to run the post-upgrade --reinstall nvidia-kernel-dkms. It was all taken care of during the update.

Though I don't know as much about this stuff as many of the folks here, I'm trying to learn so I try to use the command line to do these things. Me and my tinkering addiction... I realize most people aren't like me, I'm the odd duck here.

As I watched my testing upgrade scroll up the screen, I observed what went on with nvidia-kernel-dkms. First, the old version was removed (I won't bore you with terminal output here :D ) Then further down the new version was installed and built for both kernels on the machine, and I didn't need to run the post-upgrade reinstall. This was my personal experience, but it looks to me as though [nvidia-wise] we have a pretty smooth UP headed our way this time.

Going with BE would definitely be a much quieter experience all around. I have a BE install on this drive that I use as an Old Faithful. If I bork up everything I can boot up the ol' BE and (hopefully) go fix stuff... :D

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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 01 Jan 2014 16:15

UP frequency changed: http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2471
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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby ShalokShalom » 04 Sep 2014 09:38

Hi there :D

How can i use the SolydK UP in my debian testing Installation, please ?

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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 04 Sep 2014 11:48

ShalokShalom wrote:Hi there :D

How can i use the SolydK UP in my debian testing Installation, please ?
Hi ShalokShalom, and welcome to our forum.

The update packs are only tested with SolydXK and I wouldn't recommend it to use in any other distribution.
Also, the update packs are going to be abandoned: http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4556


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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby ShalokShalom » 04 Sep 2014 23:15

OK, so there is no Way to use debian testing with serious security updates ?

I ask, because some people write to me, that this is not the case in testing by default, so i guess, that the SolydK Repos can help me here. :)

I aim to redistribute debian jessy and cant use SoldyK instead, because i love the Win 32 Loader, which work only with the debian-installer.

Is there maybe a Way, to use debian-installer and the Win 32 Loader in SolydK ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win32-loader

Thanks a lot for your quick answer :)

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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 05 Sep 2014 07:03

I'm sorry, I don't have experience with either of those.


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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 05 Sep 2014 07:07

I'm sorry, I don't have experience with either of those.


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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby rokytnji » 17 Oct 2014 22:01

Schoelje wrote:UP frequency changed: http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2471
OP updated.
I am hoping the above explains this then. I have not pulled the trigger yet on this oct. 2014 update.
Pre Upgrade:
There are some things that need to be cleaned up first (from the LMDE period). So it is best to download and run the
pre-Up script.

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wget http;//repository.solydxk.com/umfiles/prd-up-2014.10.15; chmod +x pre-up-2014.10.15; sudo ./pre-up-2014.10.15
Soooo. I

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$ wget http;//repository.solydxk.com/umfiles/prd-up-2014.10.15; chmod +x pre-up-2014.10.15; sudo ./pre-up-2014.10.15
--2014-10-17 16:50:48--  http://http/
Resolving http (http)... 198.105.244.65, 198.105.254.65
Connecting to http (http)|198.105.244.65|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: ‘index.html.1’

    [ <=>                                   ] 315         --.-K/s   in 0s      

2014-10-17 16:50:48 (6.88 MB/s) - ‘index.html.1’ saved [315]

bash: //repository.solydxk.com/umfiles/prd-up-2014.10.15: No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access ‘pre-up-2014.10.15’: No such file or directory
[sudo] password for harry: 
sudo: ./pre-up-2014.10.15: command not found
I am either misunderstanding the update manager instructions. Or the "umfiles/prd-up-2014.10.15" were removed from the "//repository.solydxk.nl/"

Because

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$ ls -a
.              Documents        Images          Screeny
..             Downloads        index.html      .sws.flag
.adobe         .face            index.html.1    .themes
.aptitude      .gconf           .kernelname.sh  .thumbnails
.bash_history  .gimp-2.8        .lastpass       .thunderbird
.bash_logout   .gksu.lock       .local          Videos
.bashrc        .gnome           .macromedia     Wallpapers
.cache         .gnome2          .moc            .weather.sh
cli_radio      .gnome2_private  .mozilla        Windows
.config        .gnupg           .mplayer        .Xauthority
.conkyrc       .gstreamer-0.10  Music           .xchat2
.conkyrcbk1    .gtk-bookmarks   Pictures        .xsession-errors
.cups          .gtkrc-2.0       .pki            .xsession-errors.old
.dbus          .gtkrc-xfce      .profile        .xsessionrc
Desktop        .gvfs            .pulse
.dmrc          .ICEauthority    .pulse-cookie
Yep, index.html is the only thing that made it. Is it because I am 2 days past Oct15?
Just wonderng?

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harry@biker:~$ inxi -S
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.14-2-486 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: N/A 
           Distro: SolydXK 1 testing 
harry@biker:~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://packages.solydxk.com/testing/ solydxk main upstream import kdenext
           deb http://debian.solydxk.com/testing testing main contrib non-free
           deb http://debian.solydxk.com/testing/multimedia testing main non-free
           deb http://debian.solydxk.com/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
           deb http://community.solydxk.com/testing/ solydxk main
This is on SolydX 32 bit testing on a Small Netbook.

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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby zerozero » 17 Oct 2014 23:12

rok
if this is the exact output of your terminal

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$ wget http;//repository.solydxk.com/umfiles/prd-up-2014.10.15; chmod +x pre-up-2014.10.15; sudo ./pre-up-2014.10.15
--2014-10-17 16:50:48--  http://http/
Resolving http (http)... 198.105.244.65, 198.105.254.65
Connecting to http (http)|198.105.244.65|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: ‘index.html.1’

    [ <=>                                   ] 315         --.-K/s   in 0s      

2014-10-17 16:50:48 (6.88 MB/s) - ‘index.html.1’ saved [315]

bash: //repository.solydxk.com/umfiles/prd-up-2014.10.15: No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access ‘pre-up-2014.10.15’: No such file or directory
[sudo] password for harry: 
sudo: ./pre-up-2014.10.15: command not found
as shown in your post above, there's a typo right in the beginning:
you have
wget http;
[semicolon]
should be
wget http:
[colon]
bliss of ignorance

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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby rokytnji » 17 Oct 2014 23:36

Ok. User error as usual. That is the exact command readout. Thanks for the catch zz.

Edit: moving my post to http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php? ... 102#p46102
since it seems to me I am off topic here now.

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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby dlw » 08 Nov 2014 03:55

Folks,

I'm running Solydx in a virtual machine and only really use it two or three times a week. It seems that every time I page to it, either the update logo isn't present or it shows that the system is up to date. However, if I run the Update Manager, it finds that there's a new UM waiting for me to download. Getting that downloads a good number of security updates.

So first, thank you! It's great that there are packagers and testers looking out for my security on a daily basis.

But second, it seems that I'm not notified that there are updates waiting for me. Do I have to do something special to turn on a "tell me about updates" function? Or (shudder) reboot to reset something?

And third, I don't entirely understand how non-security updates are supposed to migrate to production. My xfce4-weather-plugin stopped working (along with everyone else's) in October. I got the information I needed to fix this problem from this forum (http://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4889). In following the instructions I discovered that you had the new package I needed in a repository (http://repository.solydxk.com/pool/main/) that's not (and probably shouldn't be) in my source list. So what actually happens? Is this a reasonably close clone to Debian Testing that acts as the source for packages that come into SolydXK Testing and then -- once they're ready -- to Production? And would I be generally safe in installing packages hosted there?

Thanks for thinking about this.
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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby grizzler » 08 Nov 2014 08:19

The update packs are a snapshot of Debian Testing/Jessie. The latest one was taken 30 September. The xfce4-weather-plugin version mentioned in http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4889 migrated to Testing just after that, so it isn't in the current snapshot.

There are several repositories at solydxk.nl. Some hostnames point to the same one, others to versions used for testing or preparations for the switch to Stable (when Jessie goes stable).
I'm not entirely sure about repository.solydxk.nl/pool/main, but after looking at some of the packages there, I would say it's currently a mirror of Debian Testing (or even Unstable). Unless you want to be inundated with updates on a daily basis, possibly breaking your install, you do not want to add that repository to your sources.list. Installing a single package from it should be doable, if you're careful and don't install it if apt/synaptic/gdebi threatens to remove half your system...

About your other question: it's possible a recent update of the update manager made the icon disappear. However, as long as the icon is there, it should automatically switch to the image indicating updates are available, though the switch will probably not be immediate. It checks at regular intervals. I'm certainly seeing that happen here (my machine is on 24/7 and only rebooted maybe twice a week).
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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 08 Nov 2014 09:06

repository.solydxk.nl is for my personal use only. It's highly experimental and is used to find the right process for our future repositories after Jessie becomes stable. I recommend that you only use the official repositories.


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Re: SolydXK Update Packs explained

Postby dlw » 10 Nov 2014 02:07

Thanks grizzler and Schoelje. I'm seeing no ill effects from the package I did download, so I'll consider myself lucky this time. It is hard to wait when you just know something you want and need is right there for the taking. I'll keep watching for the update icon and document any problems I can replicate.

I appreciate the time you've spent on this.
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