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Re: Sources.list

Postby Zill » 24 May 2015 11:43

MAYBL8 wrote:...Should we help those users here or just send them out there to learn for themselves?
Remember ZeroZero. I know he was very helpful to me when I wanted to get started off the Stable path.
I fully accept that no-one is born with knowledge and that we all have to learn. But part of this process is learning how to use the forums and do other web searches to find information.

I am always happy to help other users but with the proviso that I do expect them to make some effort to find information for themselves. Figuring out how to change a sources.list from stable repos to testing repos is surely not much of a challenge! If a user really cannot do this then they can always post here for further advice. However, I would seriously question whether such a user would be capable of actually running Debian Testing.

As zerozero pointed out way back in 2013, "This is the home of the brave". :-)

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Re: Sources.list

Postby grizzler » 24 May 2015 12:04

The link to the thread 'Sources.list' shows up at the top under Annoucements in every section of the forum, even if you've just entered the 'Community & Development » Testing zone' section. That is confusing. I think it either shouldn't be there in that section, or the first posting should contain a clear link to follow for people who track Testing.

The first posting of this thread needs some attention anyway, because it appears to mention items that don't exist anymore (community repository, business editions).
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Re: Sources.list

Postby ane champenois » 24 May 2015 22:10

grizzler wrote:The link to the thread 'Sources.list' shows up at the top under Annoucements in every section of the forum, even if you've just entered the 'Community & Development » Testing zone' section. That is confusing. I think it either shouldn't be there in that section, or the first posting should contain a clear link to follow for people who track Testing.

Correct. Could you post this specific-testing post?
The first posting of this thread needs some attention anyway, because it appears to mention items that don't exist anymore (community repository, business editions).

I've deleted these items. Thanks Frank.
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Re: Sources.list

Postby grizzler » 25 May 2015 05:26

ane champenois wrote:Correct. Could you post this specific-testing post?

Yes, I had already planned to do that. I didn't get round to it yesterday, but I'll see what I can come up with later today.

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Done: viewtopic.php?f=78&t=5620
I've taken the liberty of adding the link to the first post of this thread. Not sure if it's visible/clear enough like this. Feel free to change it if necessary.
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Re: Sources.list

Postby Zill » 25 May 2015 11:59

Thanks for adding the new info guys. In my view, there also needs to be a prominent warning somewhere advising of the potential breakage users can expect if they run Debian testing / SolydXK EE.

Users who are not happy with fixing breakages (or waiting for a fix to be released) should be directed towards the SolydXK main editions.

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Re: Sources.list

Postby Schoelje » 26 May 2015 10:17

I have changed this topic's type from "Global" to "Announcement".

This results in not showing up in every forum but only in the "News & Anouncements" forum.
Unfortunately, this way it also doesn't show up in the forums of the "Multilingual Support" section and I cannot seem to select in which section or forum to show this as an announcement.

Is this what you prefer or should I revert to show it globally and showing it again in the forums of the "Community & Develepment" section?


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Re: Sources.list

Postby Zill » 26 May 2015 11:47

Schoelje: As the sources.list is slightly "hidden" in the "News & Anouncements" section, maybe you could update the Section Heading to highlight that the sources.list is shown here. e.g.
News & Anouncements

Important informations about SolydXK including releases notes, forum rules and other anouncements. For reference, the current default "/etc/apt/sources.list" for the SolydXK main editions is also shown in this section.
BTW, sorry to be pedantic but announcements has two "n"s after the "a" and both information and release do not need an "s" on the end. ;-)

I also agree that falke made a good point in this thread that "Real anouncements should instead be pined and uneditable." It would be good to totally separate the "official" sources.list itself from discussion threads around it and, IMO, this applies to both the main edition and the EE. In this way, a user unfamiliar with our forums would still be able to find their definitive list quickly.

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Re: Sources.list

Postby grizzler » 26 May 2015 13:06

Schoelje wrote:Is this what you prefer or should I revert to show it globally and showing it again in the forums of the "Community & Develepment" section?

Not showing it in the 'Multilingual Support' sections doesn't seem like a good idea. I think showing it globally is OK now there's a separate posting highlighting the different sources for the EEs. I pinned that message, so it should stay visible near the top of the listing in the relevant sections.

Zill wrote:I also agree that falke made a good point in this thread that "Real anouncements should instead be pined and uneditable." It would be good to totally separate the "official" sources.list itself from discussion threads around it and, IMO, this applies to both the main edition and the EE. In this way, a user unfamiliar with our forums would still be able to find their definitive list quickly.

I'm not sure about this. I've seen this type of separation on other forums and somehow it always annoyed me somewhat. Can't really say why... :?
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Re: Sources.list

Postby palimmo » 30 May 2015 15:42

LMDE 2 Betsy uses by default this repo

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deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free

(source: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 6&t=192429)

What do you think about it?

Furthermore: could it be useful/interesting/dangerous/.. to add their own repo

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com betsy main upstream import
deb http://extra.linuxmint.com betsy main

to my installation? Has any of you already tried?

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Re: Sources.list

Postby grizzler » 30 May 2015 16:10

palimmo wrote:LMDE 2 Betsy uses by default this repo

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deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free

(source: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 6&t=192429)

What do you think about it?

Bad idea in general. We just got rid of that last July.

If you're asking about using it on a SolydXK install, it depends on where you come from. If you used to use a Home Edition and never removed that repo or the packages belonging to it, using it should be ok. Otherwise, not so much. You run the risk of some packages like VLC updating because the version numbers in deb-multimedia are higher. Once that starts happening, you're in for a lot of fun (if you enjoy repairing borked installs, that is...).

Furthermore: could it be useful/interesting/dangerous/.. to add their own repo

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com betsy main upstream import
deb http://extra.linuxmint.com betsy main

to my installation? Has any of you already tried?

I haven't and I don't intend to. No idea what's in there and what mess it might cause.
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Re: Sources.list

Postby Zill » 30 May 2015 19:18

^ +1

If it ain't broke, don't fix it... ;-)

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Re: Sources.list

Postby wolf-nv » 15 Jun 2015 18:58

15Jun15
I installed SolydX 32b in VirtualBox to test and see if it could be suitable for my old Dell Latitude D600 and I loved the experience! The only problem I had was with, both, "apt" and "synaptic"! This could be the answer, I hope so! Thanks for posting the info!! :ugeek:

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Re: Sources.list

Postby Zill » 15 Jun 2015 19:14

wolf-nv: Firstly, let me welcome you to SolydXK forums and I trust that you will enjoy using this great distro. If you would like to post in the "Introduce yourself" section it will be great to hear a bit more about who you are and how you got here!

I am pleased to see that SolydX 32-bit works well on your Dell Latitude D600 although I am slightly puzzled by your problem with both, "apt" and "synaptic". SolydXK generally works "out of the box" and so the default sources.list should be fine.

However, if you haven't resolved things yet then I suggest you post again on these forums (preferably with a meaningful title!) and I am sure someone will be along to help - we are a friendly bunch here. :-)

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ftp.nluug.nl unreachable

Postby belze » 21 Aug 2016 09:06

just come back home and tried to update:

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Err:10 http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/solydxk/repository solydxk InRelease
  Cannot initiate the connection to ftp.nluug.nl:80 (2001:67c:6ec:221:145:220:21:40). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:6ec:221:145:220:21:40 80]

and

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ping -c 10 ftp.nluug.nl
PING ftp.nluug.nl (145.220.21.40) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- ftp.nluug.nl ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 8999ms

I had to switch to UK mirror
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Re: Sources.list

Postby grizzler » 21 Aug 2016 09:27

Yes, according to a tweet from @nluug, the server is down. Hardware issues (again...). No idea when it will be back up.
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Re: Sources.list

Postby bas_otten » 23 Aug 2016 19:49

It shows to be up and running again.

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Re: Sources.list

Postby ilu » 30 Apr 2017 16:54

Arjen, could you please update your first post? I don't think it reflects the latest changes. Shouldn't it be

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deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk-8 main upstream import
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free

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Re: Sources.list

Postby Schoelje » 01 May 2017 08:05

Yes, you're right and done.
I don't think anyone would get a problem with those settings: solydxk-system would change it at the first boot, but it's better to prevent those problems in the first place.


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Re: Sources.list

Postby pkay42 » 11 Nov 2017 22:04

Have the default sources been updated again?


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