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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 16 Jul 2014 11:59

A security update for the Linux kernel (3.14.12-1 - started as 3.14.10-1 but that never got beyond Sid) has just migrated to Testing. Anyone in for testing it before I drop it in the security updates repo?
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby ScottQuier » 16 Jul 2014 12:14

grizzler wrote:A security update for the Linux kernel (3.14.12-1 - started as 3.14.10-1 but that never got beyond Sid) has just migrated to Testing. Anyone in for testing it before I drop it in the security updates repo?
I can give it a play (64-bit), but I can't do anything until about 1930 UTC (I get home from work at about 1900 UTC). And, I'll need some short instructions on what configs/sources.list/etc need to be changed (and in what manner) to get the job done.

Will that help, or is it too late?
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 16 Jul 2014 13:06

ScottQuier wrote:Will that help, or is it too late?
No, that'll do fine. Thanks.

I'll provide some info about sources.list etc. later today.
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby kurotsugi » 16 Jul 2014 13:22

I already use that kernel yesterday. it seems that it only contain small patch. all good here. my specs are below

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System:    Host: kurozv3 Kernel: 3.14-1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.3) 
           Desktop: N/A Distro: MiauwX 17.03 azzure 
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X451CAP v: 1.0
           Bios: American Megatrends v: X451CAP.201 date: 07/26/2013
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i3-3217U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7183 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1458 MHz 2: 862 MHz 3: 964 MHz 4: 847 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.15.99.904 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.2.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.14-1-amd64
Network:   Card: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (12.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: HGST_HTS545050A7 size: 500.1GB temp: 35C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.1G used: 4.0G (46%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
           ID-2: /home size: 446G used: 55G (13%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.23GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram0 
           ID-4: swap-2 size: 0.23GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram1 
           ID-5: swap-3 size: 0.23GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram2 
           ID-6: swap-4 size: 0.23GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 145 Uptime: 22 min Memory: 451.9/1766.4MB 
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.0 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111) inxi: 2.1.28 

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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 16 Jul 2014 15:55

Thanks for that info. Intel graphics, I see (like mine, also asus).

I'm always more curious about nvidia and ati as they seem to be prone to all kinds of 'niceties' whenever a kernel gets updated. But this is just a minor patch indeed, so I don't really expect trouble (famous last words...).
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 16 Jul 2014 16:35

Scott,
I wrote:I'll provide some info about sources.list etc. later today.
Whenever I want to install something directly from Debian Testing, I change the main debian related line in my sources.list to this:

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deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
You could use your own country code instead of nl.

After you've done apt update, you should only update the linux kernel related packages. If I hadn't had all of the packages for that update on my system already, that would have gone like this:

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apt install linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86 linux-headers-3.14-1-amd64 linux-headers-3.14-1-common linux-image-3.14-1-amd64 linux-libc-dev
Does the machine you're going to test this on have nvidia or ati graphics? Then there's a small chance drivers will have to be updated as well (not likely though).
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby ScottQuier » 16 Jul 2014 16:57

grizzler wrote:Does the machine you're going to test this on have nvidia or ati graphics? Then there's a small chance drivers will have to be updated as well (not likely though).
Nvidia GT 450 (or something like that).

I'll also try to stand up 201405 SolydX (32-bit) on a 32-bit machine and see how it plays there. That will take a bit of time as that processor (2 cores) is sooooo slooooowwwww! If I can get it installed, I'll attempt to install and run the new kernel.
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby ScottQuier » 16 Jul 2014 23:24

Here's the results from the first (64-bit) machine:

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scott@kernel-test:~/Desktop$ uname -a
Linux kernel-test 3.14-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.12-1 (2014-07-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
scott@kernel-test:~/Desktop$ inxi -Fxxx
System:    Host: kernel-test Kernel: 3.14-1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.3) 
           Desktop: N/A info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm Distro: SolydXK 1 testing 
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 2104 date: 11/21/2013
CPU:       Octa core AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core (-MCP-) cache: 16384 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 60686 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 3792 MHz 2: 3792 MHz 3: 3792 MHz 4: 3792 MHz 5: 3792 MHz 6: 3792 MHz 7: 3792 MHz
           8: 3792 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF106 [GeForce GTS 450] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0dc4
           Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1600x1200@60.0hz, 1600x1200@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTS 450/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.4.0 NVIDIA 331.67 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GF106 High Definition Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be9 
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.14-1-amd64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: b000 bus-ID: 0a:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 60:a4:4c:62:25:19
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (4.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5000AAKS size: 500.1GB serial: WD-WCAS84146309 temp: 47C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 20G used: 5.5G (30%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda10 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.18GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 20.6C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:41C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 226 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 517.6/15980.6MB 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 2 default: 2 Gcc sys: 4.9.0 alt: 4.6/4.7/4.8 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.1.28 
Uptime is only 3 minutes. I've been playing with it without the Nvidia driver installed and had zero (0) issues. So, I decided to see if the Nvidia driver would install and work. Yep! Hence the short up-time!
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby zerozero » 16 Jul 2014 23:44

somehow the system where i tested the previous kernel updates was overwritten with one of the many (re)installations done in last weeks :roll:
i'm rebuilding it now (but with the UP it will take time)
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 17 Jul 2014 05:43

Thanks guys. Looking good so far (no issues on my main machine either), which is more than one can say for the nvidia and virtualbox packages, which have just been dropped from Testing... :shock:

https://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia ... ivers.html
https://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox.html
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby kurotsugi » 17 Jul 2014 07:15

the situation is actually worse. the removal hint was

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# 20140714; done 20140716
# xorg-server 1.16
remove fglrx-driver/1:14.4.2-1 nvidia-graphics-drivers/331.67-2 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-304xx/304.121-1 virtualbox/4.3.12-dfsg-1 xf86-video-msm/1.0.1+git20100122.5f7df591-4
remove nvidia-settings/331.67-1 starpu-contrib/1.1.2+dfsg-2 pycuda/2013.1.1+git20140527-1 nvidia-settings-legacy-304xx/304.116-1 nvidia-graphics-modules/331.67+3.14+1 boinc/7.4.8+dfsg-1 hwloc-contrib/1.9-1 nvidia-cuda-toolkit/5.5.22-4 starpu/1.1.2+dfsg-1 boinc-app-milkyway/0.18d-4 boinc-app-seti/7.28~svn2408-1
remove xvba-video/0.8.0-8 bumblebee/3.2.1-5 xserver-xorg-video-nv/1:2.1.20-2
remove primus/0~20131127-2
the interesting part is that our xorg-server isn't the final version. the one in testing is actually RC version.

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Changes:
 xorg-server (2:1.15.99.904-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release candidate.
   * Make xserver-common Multi-Arch: foreign (closes: #693922)
   * Add debian/upstream/signing-key.asc, and add pgpsigurlmangle option to
     debian/watch, to allow uscan to verify tarball signatures.
   * Upload to unstable.

I got a feeling that this removal is just a temporary removal. they might want to test the new xorg-server on testing branch.

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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby zerozero » 17 Jul 2014 07:44

system is up

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zerozero@x-test:~$ inxi -Gxx; uname -a
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7340]
           bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:9808
           Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 driver: fglrx
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: AMD Radeon HD 7340 Graphics
           GLX Version: 4.4.12874 - CPC 14.10.1006.1001 Direct Rendering: Yes
Linux x-test 3.14-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.14.12-1 (2014-07-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
zerozero@x-test:~$ 
no problems here ;)
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 17 Jul 2014 09:37

zerozero wrote:no problems here ;)
Thanks. Looks like this update is ready to be uploaded.

Scott, if you didn't get round to setting things up on that 32-bit machine you mentioned, I think we have enough to go on. Thanks.
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby helmsdeeper » 17 Jul 2014 19:50

I use ATI FGLRX and did the update, rebooted and looks good so far.
helms@fx8320amd8coresolydk64 ~ $ inxi -Fxx
System: Host: fx8320amd8coresolydk64 Kernel: 3.14-1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.3)
Desktop: KDE 4.13.1 (Qt 4.8.6) dm: lightdm
Distro: SolydXK 1 testing
Machine: Mobo: MSI model: 970A-G46 (MS-7693) v: 2.0
Bios: American Megatrends v: V2.3 date: 03/15/2013
CPU: Octa core AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core (-MCP-) cache: 16384 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 56004
Clock Speeds: 1: 1400 MHz 2: 1400 MHz 3: 1400 MHz 4: 1400 MHz
5: 1400 MHz 6: 1400 MHz 7: 1400 MHz 8: 3500 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870]
bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6738
Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 driver: fglrx
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
GLX Version: 4.4.12874 - CPC 13.35.1005 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Barts HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6800 Series]
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aa88
Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.14-1-amd64
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
mac:
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (2.7% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: WD-WMC1S3943280
Partition: ID-1: / size: 275G used: 25G (10%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 20.6C mobo: N/A gpu: 39.00C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 212 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 599.6/7889.6MB
Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 2 default: 2
Gcc sys: 4.9.0 alt: 4.4/4.6/4.7/4.8
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111 running in konsole) inxi: 2.1.28

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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby ScottQuier » 17 Jul 2014 20:32

grizzler wrote:
zerozero wrote:no problems here ;)
Thanks. Looks like this update is ready to be uploaded.

Scott, if you didn't get round to setting things up on that 32-bit machine you mentioned, I think we have enough to go on. Thanks.
In the "For What It's Worth" column, I have the 32-bit machine up and running SolydX and as you can see, I have the new kernel installed. What I couldn't get to install/run properly is the Nvidia driver .... not even when I used the content of my tutorial on the subject. Oh well - I kinda figuered that would be an issue. That's why I bought a new video card for my desktop box (it used to have a 7600 also). Dealing with that old card was just getting to be too much of a hassle.

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scott@acer-x:~/Desktop$ uname -a
Linux acer-x 3.14-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.14.12-1 (2014-07-11) i686 GNU/Linux
scott@acer-x:~/Desktop$ inxi -Fxxx
System:    Host: acer-x Kernel: 3.14-1-686-pae i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.8.3) 
           Desktop: N/A info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm Distro: SolydXK 1 testing 
Machine:   System: Acer product: Aspire 5680 v: V3.03 Chassis: type: 10
           Mobo: Acer model: Grapevine Bios: Acer v: V3.03 date: 11/10/2006
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 T5500 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 6649 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1667 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G73M [GeForce Go 7600] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0398
           Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x768@60.0hz, 1024x768@59.9hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV4B GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.1.4 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.14-1-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
           driver: tg3 v: 3.136 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1693
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:16:d4:5f:74:37
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
           driver: iwl3945 v: in-tree:s bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4222
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:18:de:67:a6:77
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 200.0GB (4.8% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HTS72202 size: 200.0GB serial: 070729DP0410DTG2RV4P
Partition: ID-1: / size: 39G used: 5.3G (15%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.19GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0C mobo: 42.0C gpu: 52.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 159 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 172.4/2022.6MB 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 2 default: 2 Gcc sys: 4.9.0 alt: 4.6/4.7/4.8 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.1.28 
It's only been up a couple of minutes with the new kernel so far so I'm going to give it some play time. It's kind of amazing that this old processor has the kick to actually be productive. I think this machine is some 10 years old; its got a sticker on it that says it was "designed for Windows XP | Windows Vista Capable".
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 22 Jul 2014 21:37

Not really about a security update, but this might end up in the Security Repository, so...

Just before he went on vacation, Arjen told me there's a fixed version of solydxk-system, to be parked in Security for the time being, provided it installs without issues. I've tried it on two VMs and on my main machine's testing partition (K and X, all 64 bit). No problems. Still, I would appreciate feedback from some testers before I upload it.

It's here: http://downloads.solydxk.nl/dev/solydxk ... .1_all.deb
You can install it with GDebi (probably dpkg as well).
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby zerozero » 22 Jul 2014 22:41

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zerozero@x-test:~/Downloads$ sudo gdebi solydxk-system_1.2.1_all.deb 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree        
Reading state information... Done
Building data structures... Done 
Building data structures... Done 

SolidXK System Base Package
 Used by the desktop and other SolydXK tools to gather information and process common system tasks.
Do you want to install the software package? [y/N]:y
(Reading database ... 166229 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack solydxk-system_1.2.1_all.deb ...
Unpacking solydxk-system (1.2.1) over (1.1.9) ...
Setting up solydxk-system (1.2.1) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/solydxk-system ...
snd-hda-intel model already set
pcspkr already blacklisted
zerozero@x-test:~/Downloads$ 
apart from the small typo in the description it installs fine and doesn't break (AFAIK) nothing: syslog is clean and so is solydk-system.log)
running sysvinit

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zerozero@x-test:~$ inxi -Ixx
Info:      Processes: 162 Uptime: 31 min Memory: 595.5/3534.9MB 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 2 default: 2 
           Gcc sys: 4.9.0 alt: 4.6/4.7/4.8 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.1.28 
zerozero@x-test:~$ 
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 23 Jul 2014 10:21

Thanks. I've now successfully installed it in a 32 bit VM as well. I'm not going to fiddle with it to get rid of the typo, so I'll upload it as soon as possible.
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Re: [Talk] Home Edition security updates

Postby grizzler » 31 Jul 2014 16:58

Another security update for the kernel: version 3.14.13-2.

Arrived in Testing today: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux.html

I'll run some tests this evening or tomorrow morning. If anyone else wants to give it a go, please let me know of any issues.

Edit 1: it looks like this may need linux-latest updated as well...

Edit 2: the nvidia stuff also has newer versions (1, 2) - anyone care to comment?
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