UP 2014.10.15

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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby zerozero » 16 Oct 2014 19:40

i was more or less expecting that error; the stop/start service fails and the package configuration fails because of that

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zerozero@home ~ $ zcat /var/log/apt/term.log.1.gz | grep gpsd
Preparing to unpack .../archives/gpsd_3.11-1_amd64.deb ...
Warning: Stopping gpsd.service, but it can still be activated by:
  gpsd.socket
Unpacking gpsd (3.11-1) over (3.10+dev3~d6b65b48-4) ...
Setting up gpsd (3.11-1) ...
Creating/updating gpsd user account...
this bug report (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=736258 ) is basically about the same kind of situation:
during the upgrade systemd stops the service that is (erroneously) started again sooner than it should making the postinst script fail (because it was expecting the service to be stopped).

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with the library now removed, i think that the more traditional

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sudo dpkg --configure -a
or

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sudo apt-get -f install
might work (they didn't before because of the stop/start timing issue)
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby grizzler » 16 Oct 2014 19:49

dali wrote:

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sudo mkdir /tmp
Better make that

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sudo mkdir -m 01777 /tmp
or the permissons won't be set correctly which could lead to all kinds of problems.

Actually, if /tmp is a link to /var/tmp, deleting the link, renaming /var/tmp to /tmp and creating a new /var/tmp would be a better solution, as that would leave most of /tmp's contents where applications would expect to find it.
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby Orbmiser » 16 Oct 2014 19:57

zerozero wrote:
dali wrote:
EDIT: I'm probably responsible for linking /tmp to /var/tmp, I've upgraded two other machines without this issue. The only machine with this problem has an SSD and I usually redirect /tmp to tmpfs in fstab to spare the SSD from unnecessary wear, but I was probably lazy and just linked it to /var/tmp ... and forgot about it ... :oops:
this is the key of these problems (not only yours but also Orb's)
that symlink was removed with the July UP [the discussion starts here http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php? ... tmp#p39002 if you are interested]
and all the isos published after that have that symlink removed.

Orb
what is the output of

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ls -lA /var

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orbmiser@winterfell ~ $ ls -lA /var
total 284
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Oct 16 00:13 backups
drwxr-xr-x 19 root root    4096 Oct 15 18:39 cache
drwxr-xr-x 63 root root    4096 Oct 15 20:01 lib
drwxrwsr-x  2 root staff   4096 Nov 13  2010 local
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root       9 Aug 30  2013 lock -> /run/lock
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root    4096 Oct 16 11:23 log
drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail    4096 Nov 23  2010 mail
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Nov 23  2010 opt
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root       4 Aug 30  2013 run -> /run
drwxr-xr-x  7 root root    4096 Jan 28  2014 spool
drwxrwxrwt 41 root root  253952 Oct 16 12:17 tmp
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby zerozero » 16 Oct 2014 20:02

freecicero wrote:Perhaps this was never a good idea in the first place, but in my Solydx installation I had installed Dolphin to use for file work. All seemed to work and co-exist fine.

This update on most (but not all) of my machines has resulted in all the kde programs being removed. One or two machines seem to be still ok, but on most the update deleted the kde programs.

I am not sure how to go about dealing with this. Going to synaptic and marking dolphin and hoping it will load all base items that are needed results in a "broken package" message that will not let me proceed.

apt install dolphin gives me a list of unmet dependencies which I suppose I could go through and install til it lets me install dolphin.

Am I really messing up Solydx by installing Dolphin? I don't mind the disk space loss for things I don't need - I just don't want to mess up the system.

If I try to proceed, what is the best way to get dolphin installed for use on a XFCE desktop without making KDE the desktop?

thanks!
1. from the affected machines share the output of

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cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep Remove
2. share the output of

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inxi -r; apt dist-upgrade
3. share the output of

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sudo apt-get install dolphin
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby zerozero » 16 Oct 2014 20:08

Orb
sorry :roll:
the correct command should be

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ls -lA /
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby Orbmiser » 16 Oct 2014 20:10

zerozero wrote:Orb
sorry :roll:
the correct command should be

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ls -lA /

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orbmiser@winterfell ~ $ ls -lA /
total 104
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 15 20:02 bin
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Oct 16 07:50 boot
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 30  2013 .config
drwxr-xr-x  20 root root  4060 Oct 16 11:33 dev
drwxr-xr-x 166 root root 12288 Oct 16 11:23 etc
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Oct 27  2013 home
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    29 Oct 15 20:11 initrd.img -> /boot/initrd.img-3.16-2-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    29 Aug 18 07:32 initrd.img.old -> /boot/initrd.img-3.14-2-amd64
drwxr-xr-x  24 root root  4096 Oct 15 19:44 lib
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 15 19:37 lib32
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 15 19:37 lib64
drwx------   2 root root 16384 Nov 23  2010 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x  12 root root  4096 Jul 13 20:39 media
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 13  2010 mnt
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jul 19 21:25 opt
dr-xr-xr-x 187 root root     0 Oct 16 11:22 proc
drwx------   2 root root  4096 Nov  8  2013 .pulse
-rw-------   1 root root   256 Aug 30  2013 .pulse-cookie
drwx------  22 root root  4096 Apr 25 16:19 root
drwxr-xr-x  26 root root   880 Oct 16 11:23 run
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 12288 Oct 15 20:06 sbin
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 23  2010 srv
dr-xr-xr-x  13 root root     0 Oct 16 13:09 sys
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     8 Aug 30  2013 tmp -> /var/tmp
drwxr-xr-x  11 root root  4096 Jun  2  2013 usr
drwxr-xr-x  11 root root  4096 Feb 20  2013 var
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    25 Oct 15 20:11 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-3.16-2-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    25 Aug 18 07:32 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-3.14-2-amd64
Wondering if this is the Solution?
Actually, if /tmp is a link to /var/tmp, deleting the link, renaming /var/tmp to /tmp and creating a new /var/tmp would be a better solution, as that would leave most of /tmp's contents where applications would expect to find it.
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby freecicero » 16 Oct 2014 20:31

Thanks for your help on the loss of my kde programs from Solydx! Here are the outputs you requested:

cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep Remove

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cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep Remove
Remove: dropbox:amd64 (1.6.0)
Remove: virtualbox:amd64 (4.3.12-dfsg-1), virtualbox-dkms:amd64 (4.3.12-dfsg-1), virtualbox-qt:amd64 (4.3.12-dfsg-1)
Remove: hplip:amd64 (3.14.6-1), libavcodec-extra-56:amd64 (11-1), udisks2:amd64 (2.1.3-2), libpam-systemd:amd64 (204-8), libmetacity-private0a:amd64 (2.34.13-1), libperl5.18:amd64 (5.18.2-4), gvfs-daemons:amd64 (1.20.2-1), packagekit:amd64 (0.8.17-4), printer-driver-postscript-hp:amd64 (3.14.6-1), network-manager-gnome:amd64 (0.9.8.10-1), policykit-1:amd64 (0.105-6), packagekit-tools:amd64 (0.8.17-4), gvfs:amd64 (1.20.2-1), libvtv0:amd64 (4.9.0-7), gvfs-backends:amd64 (1.20.2-1), aptdaemon:amd64 (1.1.1-3), gufw:amd64 (12.10.0-1), brasero:amd64 (3.10.0-1), policykit-1-gnome:amd64 (0.105-2), colord:amd64 (1.2.1-1), network-manager:amd64 (0.9.8.10-3)
Remove: libkde3support4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), python-opencv:amd64 (2.4.9.1+dfsg-1), libktexteditor4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libavformat56:amd64 (2.4.1-dmo1), libk3b6-extracodecs:amd64 (2.0.2-7.1), libffmpegthumbnailer4:amd64 (2.0.8-dmo4), samba-mounter:amd64 (0.2+git2012040201-201309261421-0~60~ubuntu13.10.1), konsole:amd64 (4.14.1-1), kde-runtime:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libchromaprint0:amd64 (1.2-dmo2), libkparts4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkemoticons4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), vlc-plugin-notify:amd64 (2.2.0~pre3-dmo3), smb4k:amd64 (1.1.2-1), libkmediaplayer4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkcddb4:amd64 (4.14.0-1), katepart:amd64 (4.14.1-1), krusader:amd64 (2.4.0~beta3-2), vlc-nox:amd64 (2.2.0~pre3-dmo3), browser-plugin-vlc:amd64 (2.0.6-4), phonon:amd64 (4.8.0-1), gimp:amd64 (2.8.14-1), libkatepartinterfaces4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkonq5abi1:amd64 (4.14.1-1), kdelibs5-plugins:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libopencv-legacy2.4:amd64 (2.4.9.1+dfsg-1), libk3b6:amd64 (2.0.2-7.1), libkcompactdisc4:amd64 (4.12.3-2), libknewstuff3-4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), kde-window-manager:amd64 (4.11.12-1), libbaloowidgets4:amd64 (4.14.0-1), libopencv-features2d2.4:amd64 (2.4.9.1+dfsg-1), libnepomukwidgets4abi1:amd64 (4.13.1-1), kate:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libopencv-objdetect2.4:amd64 (2.4.9.1+dfsg-1), kdoctools:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkxmlrpcclient4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libgegl-0.2-0:amd64 (0.2.0-dmo4), libkhtml5:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkfile4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkonq-common:amd64 (4.14.1-1), phonon-backend-vlc:amd64 (0.8.0-dmo2), libkateinterfaces4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libknotifyconfig4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), dolphin:amd64 (4.14.1-1), tumbler-plugins-extra:amd64 (0.1.30-1), kdelibs-bin:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libopencv-highgui2.4:amd64 (2.4.9.1+dfsg-1), libkactivities-bin:amd64 (4.13.3-1), plasma-scriptengine-javascript:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libopencv-calib3d2.4:amd64 (2.4.9.1+dfsg-1), vlc:amd64 (2.2.0~pre3-dmo3), libstreamanalyzer0:amd64 (0.7.8-1.2+b2), libavcodec56:amd64 (2.4.1-dmo1), libkdewebkit5:amd64 (4.14.1-1), live-installer:amd64 (2014.10.08), k3b:amd64 (2.0.2-7.1), libkworkspace4abi2:amd64 (4.11.12-1), libkfilemetadata4:amd64 (4.14.0-1+b2), kde-style-oxygen:amd64 (4.11.12-1), libopencv-contrib2.4:amd64 (2.4.9.1+dfsg-1), libkactivities-models1:amd64 (4.13.3-1), libkio5:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libplasma3:amd64 (4.14.1-1)
Remove: dvd+rw-tools:amd64 (7.1-10), growisofs:amd64 (7.1-10), libgoa-1.0-0b:amd64 (3.14.0-1), k3b-data:amd64 (2.0.2-7.1), ntrack-module-libnl-0:amd64 (016-1.3), linux-image-3.14-1-amd64:amd64 (3.14.12-1), libkrosscore4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libgpgme++2:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkdeclarative5:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libthreadweaver4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libmediaart-1.0-0:amd64 (0.7.0-1), libqjson0:amd64 (0.8.1-3), libkdecorations4abi2:amd64 (4.11.12-1), libbalooxapian4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), nepomuk-core-data:amd64 (4.14.0-1), libqca2:amd64 (2.0.3-6), libntrack0:amd64 (016-1.3), kde-runtime-data:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libnepomukquery4a:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libbalooqueryparser4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libzip2:amd64 (0.11.2-1.1), libqt4-qt3support:amd64 (4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2), libmusicbrainz5-0:amd64 (5.0.1-2), libkwineffects1abi5:amd64 (4.11.12-1), libkdnssd4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), soprano-daemon:amd64 (2.9.4+dfsg-1.1), libkwinglesutils1:amd64 (4.11.12-1), libsoprano4:amd64 (2.9.4+dfsg-1.1), vcdimager:amd64 (0.7.24+dfsg-0.2), libusageenvironment2:amd64 (2014.09.11-dmo1), libqmobipocket1:amd64 (4.12.2-2), libkjsapi4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkactivities6:amd64 (4.13.3-1), ruby:amd64 (2.1.0.4), libtracker-sparql-1.0-0:amd64 (1.2.2-1), ruby2.1:amd64 (2.1.3-1), virtuoso-minimal:amd64 (6.1.6+dfsg2-2), libkwinglutils1abi2:amd64 (4.11.12-1), libruby2.1:amd64 (2.1.3-1), libxcb-xtest0:amd64 (1.10-3), libnepomukutils4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libswscale3:amd64 (2.4.1-dmo1), libkpty4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkjsembed4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libexempi3:amd64 (2.2.1-2), libsolid4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libssh-gcrypt-4:amd64 (0.6.3-3+b1), libntrack-qt4-1:amd64 (016-1.3), libpoppler-qt4-4:amd64 (0.26.4-1), libbaloofiles4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libswresample1:amd64 (2.4.1-dmo1), libpostproc53:amd64 (2.4.1-dmo1), rubygems-integration:amd64 (1.8), libkdesu5:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libstreams0:amd64 (0.7.8-1.2+b2), libbaloocore4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libflac++6:amd64 (1.3.0-2), libnepomukcore4:amd64 (4.14.0-1+b2), libshine3:amd64 (3.1.0-2), libnepomuk4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libkntlm4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libiodbc2:amd64 (3.52.9-2), libxcb-damage0:amd64 (1.10-3), libkcmutils4:amd64 (4.14.1-1), liblivemedia36:amd64 (2014.09.11-dmo1), libpolkit-qt-1-1:amd64 (0.103.0-1), libepub0:amd64 (0.2.2-4), libva-drm1:amd64 (1.3.1-3), kate-data:amd64 (4.14.1-1), libiptcdata0:amd64 (1.0.4-4), libvncclient0:amd64 (0.9.9+dfsg-6+b1), libkonq5-templates:amd64 (4.14.1-1)
Remove: live-config:amd64 (4.0.1-1), sysvinit-core:amd64 (2.88dsf-53.4), remastersys-gui:amd64 (3.0.0-1), remastersys:amd64 (3.0.0-1), live-config-sysvinit:amd64 (4.0.1-1)
Remove: libpam-systemd:amd64 (208-8), network-manager-gnome:amd64 (0.9.10.0-2), policykit-1:amd64 (0.105-6.1), systemd-sysv:amd64 (208-8), systemd:amd64 (208-8), policykit-1-gnome:amd64 (0.105-2), live-config-systemd:amd64 (4.0.1-1), network-manager:amd64 (0.9.10.0-2)
Remove: live-config:amd64 (4.0.1-1), sysvinit-core:amd64 (2.88dsf-53.4), live-config-sysvinit:amd64 (4.0.1-1)
Remove: live-boot:amd64 (4.0.0-1), xresprobe:amd64 (0.4.23debian1-1), live-boot-doc:amd64 (4.0.0-1), squashfs-tools:amd64 (4.2+20130409-2), wodim:amd64 (1.1.11-3), genisoimage:amd64 (1.1.11-3), live-tools:amd64 (4.0.1-1), hwdata:amd64 (0.267-1), live-boot-initramfs-tools:amd64 (4.0.0-1), live-config-doc:amd64 (4.0.1-1), yad:amd64 (0.12.4-1~stable1)
Remove: virtualbox-dkms:amd64 (4.3.14-dfsg-1)
Remove: virtualbox:amd64 (4.3.14-dfsg-1), virtualbox-qt:amd64 (4.3.14-dfsg-1) 

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 inxi -r; apt dist-upgrade
Error 5: dependency not met: uptime not found in path.
For distribution installation package names and missing apps information, run: inxi --recommends
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

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  sudo apt-get install dolphin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 dolphin : Depends: kde-runtime (> 4:4.10) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libbaloowidgets4 (>= 4:4.13.2) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libkfile4 (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libkfilemetadata4 but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libknewstuff3-4 (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libkonq5abi1 (>= 4:4.11.2) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libkparts4 (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: libplasma3 (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: phonon but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
 

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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby TeaSwigger » 16 Oct 2014 21:02

zerozero wrote:i was more or less expecting that error; the stop/start service fails and the package configuration fails because of that

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zerozero@home ~ $ zcat /var/log/apt/term.log.1.gz | grep gpsd
Preparing to unpack .../archives/gpsd_3.11-1_amd64.deb ...
Warning: Stopping gpsd.service, but it can still be activated by:
  gpsd.socket
Unpacking gpsd (3.11-1) over (3.10+dev3~d6b65b48-4) ...
Setting up gpsd (3.11-1) ...
Creating/updating gpsd user account...
this bug report (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=736258 ) is basically about the same kind of situation:
during the upgrade systemd stops the service that is (erroneously) started again sooner than it should making the postinst script fail (because it was expecting the service to be stopped).

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with the library now removed, i think that the more traditional

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sudo dpkg --configure -a
or

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sudo apt-get -f install
might work (they didn't before because of the stop/start timing issue)
Unfortunately neither work. We continue to get:

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Creating/updating gpsd user account...
A dependency job for gpsd.service failed. See 'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript gpsd, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package gpsd (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gpsd
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby francesco312 » 16 Oct 2014 21:15

I updated my system today; unfortunately it did not go smoothly: there were problems which interrupted the update and left libc unconfigured, which prevented me from starting X. I was able to solve them by apt-get -f install, which updated the x86 version of libc; unfortunately I haven't copied the terminal output of those commands.

% inxi -FNzxx
System: Host: francesco-port Kernel: 3.16.3-laptop x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.0)
Desktop: KDE 4.14.1 (Qt 4.8.6) dm: kdm Distro: SolydXK 1 testing
Machine: System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Pavilion dv9000 (RR330EA#ABZ) v: Rev 1
Mobo: Quanta model: 30BD v: 66.42 Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: F.2E date: 03/22/2010
Chassis: Quanta type: 10
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 T5600 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7320
Clock Speeds: 1: 1000 MHz 2: 1333 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G73M [GeForce Go 7600] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0398
Display Server: X.Org 1.16.1 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1440x900@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce Go 7600/PCIe/SSE2
GLX Version: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.123 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.16.3-laptop
Network: Card-1: Intel 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: e1000e port: 5000 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:109a
IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
driver: iwl3945 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4222
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 228.1GB (50.8% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: SanDisk_SDSSDP12 size: 128.0GB serial: 130907401811 temp: 0C
ID-2: /dev/sdb model: FUJITSU_MHV2100B size: 100.0GB serial: NW9YT6B2H7BY temp: 36C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 20G used: 13G (68%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/root
ID-2: /tmp size: 1008M used: 1.4M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda8
ID-3: /home size: 9.8G used: 4.5G (49%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
ID-4: /boot size: 244M used: 127M (56%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby Orbmiser » 16 Oct 2014 21:57

grizzler wrote:
dali wrote:

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sudo mkdir /tmp
Better make that

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sudo mkdir -m 01777 /tmp
or the permissons won't be set correctly which could lead to all kinds of problems.

Actually, if /tmp is a link to /var/tmp, deleting the link, renaming /var/tmp to /tmp and creating a new /var/tmp would be a better solution, as that would leave most of /tmp's contents where applications would expect to find it.
Tried but didn't work

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orbmiser@winterfell ~ $ sudo mkdir -m 01777 /tmp
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/tmp’: File exists
Am confused? Which isn't hard to do :? As there are actual files in /tmp as well as var/tmp ?
As didn't want to delete actual files? So safe to delete /temp? symlink?
Then have to move /var/tmp up to root?

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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby Snap » 16 Oct 2014 22:07

This thread is growing fast. Maybe you skipped this one... What grizzler said, orbmister.
grizzler wrote:
dali wrote:

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sudo mkdir /tmp
Better make that

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sudo mkdir -m 01777 /tmp
or the permissons won't be set correctly which could lead to all kinds of problems.

Actually, if /tmp is a link to /var/tmp, deleting the link, renaming /var/tmp to /tmp and creating a new /var/tmp would be a better solution, as that would leave most of /tmp's contents where applications would expect to find it.
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby Orbmiser » 16 Oct 2014 22:50

dali wrote:
Orbmiser wrote:

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orbmiser@winterfell ~ $ sudo journalctl -b _PID=1679
-- Logs begin at Thu 2014-10-16 11:23:07 PDT, end at Thu 2014-10-16 11:57:43 PDT. --
Oct 16 11:45:45 winterfell systemd[1679]: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon: Operation not 
lines 1-2/2 (END)
Maybe something mentioned by by dali

I've also had problems with rtkit, had this in the logs:
systemd[...]: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon: Operation not permitted
Some googling led me to this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=754076
After upgrading to UP 2014.10.15, /tmp is a link to /var/tmp and that causes some problems.
But don't have SSD just plain old Sata & a IDE hardrives.
That sure looks like the same problem that I had. It isn't necessarily related to SSD:s.

Check if /tmp is a link, run this:

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file /tmp
If it returns "/tmp: symbolic link to '/var/tmp'", you can try removing it and recreating it as a directory:

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sudo rm /tmp
sudo mkdir /tmp
Removing /tmp on a running system can make it unstable, make sure you reboot the machine as soon as possible afterwards.
Yep just used this and problems disappeared and operating as normal again.
sudo rm /tmp
sudo mkdir /tmp
The other problem was "Monkey Loose on the Keyboard" as at one point backed up my SolydK setup with redo and didn't back up the Swap. Then magically for some reason maybe "Netrunner" install the UUID for swap changed. So did a sudo blkid to find swap UUID and updated fstab. Now all booting and operarting Normal So Far!

Still didn't understand how to move var/tpm up to root? Just copy contents of var/tmp to /tmp?

But thanks ALL zerozero for all his diagnostic wizardry and help. And to grizzler,snap,dali All a Big thanks! :o

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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby freecicero » 17 Oct 2014 00:04

Did anyone figure out from the post above why VLC is missing after the update? http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php? ... VLC#p45879

I just noticed I've lost VLC too and can't seem to get software manager to let me reinstall it. When I navigate to it and double-click on it in software manager, nothing happens, just like with dolphin. So I wonder if this is related to my missing kde files and inability to apt-get them back. (http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php? ... =80#p45977 )

The error I get when apt-getting VLC is very similar to the error I get when trying to add dolphin:

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apt-get install vlc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 vlc : Depends: vlc-nox (= 1:2.2.0~pre3-dmo3) but it is not going to be installed
       Depends: libavcodec56 (>= 10:2.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
       Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify (= 1:2.2.0~pre3-dmo3) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby zerozero » 17 Oct 2014 00:19

TeaSwigger wrote:
zerozero wrote:i was more or less expecting that error; the stop/start service fails and the package configuration fails because of that

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zerozero@home ~ $ zcat /var/log/apt/term.log.1.gz | grep gpsd
Preparing to unpack .../archives/gpsd_3.11-1_amd64.deb ...
Warning: Stopping gpsd.service, but it can still be activated by:
  gpsd.socket
Unpacking gpsd (3.11-1) over (3.10+dev3~d6b65b48-4) ...
Setting up gpsd (3.11-1) ...
Creating/updating gpsd user account...
this bug report (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=736258 ) is basically about the same kind of situation:
during the upgrade systemd stops the service that is (erroneously) started again sooner than it should making the postinst script fail (because it was expecting the service to be stopped).

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with the library now removed, i think that the more traditional

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sudo dpkg --configure -a
or

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sudo apt-get -f install
might work (they didn't before because of the stop/start timing issue)
Unfortunately neither work. We continue to get:

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Creating/updating gpsd user account...
A dependency job for gpsd.service failed. See 'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript gpsd, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package gpsd (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gpsd
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
this output shows that gpsd was not successfully purged above.
do you mind share the output of

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sudo apt-get purge gpsd
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby zerozero » 17 Oct 2014 00:45

@freecicero
looking at the outputs you posted above i have more questions than answers.
i need the full file history.log that you will find in /var/log/apt
i also need the full file of sources.list in /etc/apt and any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
gather those files and we will look into it.
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby Gonzalo_VC » 17 Oct 2014 01:27

Gee! In my SolydX 32 netbook I ran the UM and rebooted 3 times now, even tried some tricks like apt-get -f install and autoclean, autoremove, update, upgrade... in the terminal, but i got the icon for "There are updates available" again and again!!?? But when I ran the UM i got the "Your system is up to date" :!: :?:
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby TeaSwigger » 17 Oct 2014 02:20

zerozero wrote: this output shows that gpsd was not successfully purged above.
do you mind share the output of

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sudo apt-get purge gpsd
Indeed it wasn't. It did seem to purge this time though. Then I tried running update manager, which seemed to finish this time. Then I rebooted. System seems to be working ok so far. I tried to install gpsd, but it failed; output:

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sudo apt-get install gpsd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libabw-0.0-0 libavdevice55 libavfilter4 libavutil53 libe-book-0.0-0 libetonyek-0.0-0
  libfreehand-0.0-0 libgsoap4 libhdf5-7 libjim0.74 libkolabxml0 libmbim-glib0 libmkv0
  libmp4v2-2 libmwaw-0.2-2 libodfgen-0.0-0 libokularcore4 libpoppler44 libqmi-glib0
  libx265-21 linux-headers-3.14-1-amd64 linux-headers-3.14-1-common
  linux-image-3.14-1-amd64
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Suggested packages:
  gpsd-clients
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gpsd
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/94.6 kB of archives.
After this operation, 203 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously unselected package gpsd.
(Reading database ... 269500 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../archives/gpsd_3.11-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking gpsd (3.11-1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ...
Setting up gpsd (3.11-1) ...
Creating/updating gpsd user account...
A dependency job for gpsd.service failed. See 'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript gpsd, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package gpsd (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gpsd
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Also, are those "excess" packages ok?
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby ray » 17 Oct 2014 02:31

Didn't seem to go well for me. Tried to update my Solydx Vmware Workstation virtual machine, read the update section, used the Update Manager, all seemed to be progressing according to plan until it reached the following process:

Preparing triggers for menu nnnnnn at this point the process appeared to stall, I let it run for a further 80 - 90 minutes before closing the process. Not sure of the word 'Preparing' or the actual menu number, something like 2.4.1

I shutdown the virtual machine and then restarted, the restart appears to be ok and the system seems to be functioning as normal. I have taken a snapshot so if things turn to custard I can always recover. However I presume that this isn't the way these updates are supposed to perform, the requirement to abort these processes normally mean a reinstall, unless you are very lucky, but even then hidden traps may remain that surface later when least expected.

Would appreciate some knowledgeable member giving some advice on this strange error.

Ray

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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby grizzler » 17 Oct 2014 06:01

Orbmiser wrote:Still didn't understand how to move var/tpm up to root? Just copy contents of var/tmp to /tmp?
No, simply do

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sudo rm /tmp
sudo mv /var/tmp /tmp
sudo mkdir -m 1777 /var/tmp
Also, I know of at least one application that expects to find its stuff in /var/tmp rather than /tmp, so if after the move mentioned above there's an item called kdecache-root in /tmp, you should do

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sudo mv -t /var/tmp /tmp/kdecache-*
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Re: UP 2014.10.15

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 17 Oct 2014 06:04

@freecicero
Start with re-installing libavcodec56 and work you're way up:

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sudo apt-get install --reinstall libavcodec56
This will show another dependency issue. Try to re-install that until you find the culprit.

@Gonzalo_VC
But what was the output of:

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apt-get -f install
What is the output of:

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apt-show-versions | grep upgradeable
If the first shows nothing and the second does, you need to re-initialize the cache:

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apt-show-versions -i
@TeaSwigger
If you can boot the new kernel fine, you can...I did and had no issues, but that doesn't mean much.

@ray
if

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apt-get -f install
comes up with noting, you're fine.


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