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BraindeadBZH
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I'm confuse

Postby BraindeadBZH » 22 Dec 2014 17:50

Hi guys,

I would really have to clear answer to this question: Do SolydXK will completely abandoned the Rolling-Release, semi RR, model starting 25th of January?

I was looking for a nice Debian based KDE distro that I would only install once and get the latest version of the software (newest kernel, Plasma 5, latest Firefox, ...) for an extended period of time. I though SolydK was all this but now with all the latest announcements I'm quite confuse if I install SolydK I will get any of this.

Thanks for any answer.

Olivier

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Re: I'm confuse

Postby belze » 22 Dec 2014 19:08

BraindeadBZH wrote:Hi guys,

I would really have to clear answer to this question: Do SolydXK will completely abandoned the Rolling-Release, semi RR, model starting 25th of January?
quoting from there
Schoelje wrote:As of today I'm taking a step back in the production of SolydXK. My family and I have come to the conclusion that some things are going to have to change. This means I cannot continue with SolydXK in the current form.

To answer some of the questions I received, I created a small FAQ:
  • Is SolydXK going to disappear?
    - No, I will continue maintaining SolydK64, SolydX64 based on the upcoming Debian stable and the SolydXK repository.
  • Is there going to be a 32-bit version?
    - I am not going to continue to maintain the 32-bit versions. However, I'd love to see them live on as pure community editions. Frank (grizzler) plans to give maintaining them a try, but can't guarantee this will work out, so any assistance from the community would be highly appreciated.
  • Are there going to be "Enthusiast Editions", based on Debian testing?
    - I won't be able to maintain those either, but again, Frank will see what he can do about it. Any help from the community would be very welcome here as well.
  • Is the Back Office going to be maintained?
    - Unfortunately not. Although I love this edition, it takes a lot of time to create the packages and test them.
  • What about the repositories?
    - I will continue maintaining the SolydXK repository. The Debian and Security repositories will point directly to Debian. The packages of the Community repository will be transferred to the SolydXK repository.

    For the Home Editions the sources.list would look like this:

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    deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
    deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free
    The sources.list for the Business Editions would look like this:

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    deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
    deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
    The repository.solydxk.nl repository is still in development. So, please don't use it on your working machine just yet.
  • Will my current install of SolydXK (and SoldyXK BE) roll into the new SolydXK when the new SolydXK based on Debian Jessie is released?
    - I have prepared a new version of the solydxk-system package that should rewrite the sources.list automatically. If you're using the Home Edition, your sources.list will point to Jessie and if you're using the Buesiness Editions, your sources.list will point to Wheezy.
  • Will there be any more Update Packs?
    - As Jessie is now preparing for stable there will be no need for any more Update Packs. Updates will come as regular updates or security updates.
  • What will be the release cycle of the ISOs?
    - Unfortunately, I cannot make any promises on frequency of releases (software or ISOs).
  • Will the forum still exist?
    - Yes, both the site and the forum will stay. Perhaps some minor changes in the structure, but nothing more.
  • When will this all happen?
    - I'll start the transition on 31 January 2015.
Would you like to help?
  • Maintain one or more ISOs.
    - I've developed solydxk-constructor for that purpose. It comes with a help function to get you started and you can post your questions here: http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=774
  • If you find some software needs TLC.
    - If you know Python you can help. All code is available at Github: https://github.com/SolydXK
    - If you find that one of those applications need to be translated in your language, you will find a "po" directory in each Github project. Choose the right .po file and start translating with poedit. You can either create a pull request or send me the translated .po file directly.
    Jocelyn (Ane champenois) will try to simplify the work of the translators by using an online platform of translation. You'll have more informations about that if we'll achieve that point.
I also would like to thank all the people who have helped me during the past two years. Without you I wouldn't have come this far. I would especially like to thank zerozero who has been with this project since the early start. Thank you for your advice and keeping my feet on the ground when it was most needed.

Kind regards,
Arjen Balfoort

BraindeadBZH wrote:Hi guys,I was looking for a nice Debian based KDE distro that I would only install once
Install Solydx(k) and enjoy! Once it's tracking stable you'll get support for years ahead directly from one of the most secure and stable linux distro ever: debian stable.



BraindeadBZH wrote:and get the latest version of the software (newest kernel, Plasma 5, latest Firefox, ...) for an extended period of time.
:? :shock: :o

this could be a problem
BraindeadBZH wrote:I though SolydK was all this but now with all the latest announcements I'm quite confuse if I install SolydK I will get any of this.

Thanks for any answer.

Olivier
I fully understand your POV, but right now i see solydk as a very good starting point to have a debian testing install with steroids (DDM and graphic love among others). I'm using debian testing repos and i'm quite happy with that combo.

If you want the newest software out there you'll have to spend some time in reading changelogs (sid, siduction and its beautiful forum and manual resource) or compiling it yourself (using a source based distro maybe?). Or you can even use Kubuntu, it's a matter of taste.
Debian and Kubuntu's kde packagers are merging efforts for the last months and so i hope Kubuntu will have packages in a better shape than before, but i totally dislike the underlying system...it's a matter of taste...
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Re: I'm confuse

Postby Orbmiser » 22 Dec 2014 19:36

Yep catch 22 here in Linux World. As having drop dead stable and wanting the newer or latest apps are generally in conflict. As newer apps or Desktop need newer versions of underlying Libraries and Drivers and such. That are many times not in the repo or conflict with older installed base. Which brings newer bugs with that haven't been dealt with.

Depending on needs you will have to search further. I loved SolydXK based on Testing but wasn't good enough. As needed newest kernel and newest Krita & Gimp that support my Hurion Graphics tablet. So was forced to look closer to Arch based with Manjaro Netrunner Rolling. Allows me to get to the closest possible freshness with minimal amount of breakage. But just as good as SolydXK. But a bit more interacting and knowing about using Pacman & AUR: which requires a bit more learning. Nothing heavy but a tad more noodle power required. And there are Many flavors available under Manjaro even Ubuntu based if you wish. I personally use KDE and rocking the Netrunner Rolling based on Arch. Where they also have a ubuntu/debian based that isn't as fresh as the rolling arch version.

But individual needs can create more problematic situations no matter what the distro chosen is. Case in point proprietary graphics drivers seem to be the number 1 issue in my eyes. Updates many times are ahead of drivers and breakage ensues. Especially on a newer kernel or apps can cause additional headaches when it comes to proprietary drivers.

But being I am not that much of a gamer and dual boot with Win7 so have that covered. Therefore the default open drivers are great on my Ati 4350 card driving dual 22" LCD displays. Other issues would be a specific application(s) that arent' supported well in particular distro's to watch out for.

If wasn't for that would probably still be driving SolydXK KDE on my system. And to me Linux greatest weakness is the entanglement of Newest apps vs. older base. And the delays involved with getting them meshed up fresh & stable. Generally requires more work on the users part.

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Re: I'm confuse

Postby BraindeadBZH » 22 Dec 2014 19:53

Thanks for your answer.
You're probably right. I will look to a Arch based distro like a Manjaro.
I'm not comfortable to go for a Ubuntu derivative ;).


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