Major Updates today

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jlschwartz
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Major Updates today

Postby jlschwartz » 01 May 2017 00:07

My system downloaded a lot of major uupdates today including a new kernel. Had to adjust some things but got it running again. Just wanted to make sure that this was planned.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby jlschwartz » 01 May 2017 00:10

I'm a little concerned as Synaptic doesn't find respositories after the update.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby jlschwartz » 01 May 2017 00:35

After the update, I get an error that my system is missing the package apt-transport-https. Where do I find that? Thanks.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby ilu » 01 May 2017 13:08

There was no major update today, especially no kernel update. But maybe you installed one of the older updates just now? Do you remember when you approx. did your last update before today?
Please report the results of "inxi -Frxz".
jlschwartz wrote:After the update, I get an error that my system is missing the package apt-transport-https. Where do I find that? Thanks.
This is a problem because /etc/apt/sources.list tries to access the repositories via https but your system misses the necessary library. And you can't install the library because you can't access the repos ...
Open /etc/apt/sources.list as root/with sudo and change everything to http without the "s". Install apt-transport-https and change everything back to https.
This error looks like you did one of the feb/mar updates just now.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby solchris » 01 May 2017 13:38

Hi jlschwartz,

did this happen with Solydx RPI.
The update notifier of my Solydx RPI since yesterday also shows that there is a new kernel available but until now I didn't install it.

What had you to adjust to get your system running again?

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby jlschwartz » 01 May 2017 14:32

Everything in my sources.list does NOT have the s after http now. Do mean that I should add the "s". I'm a bit confused here. Can you clarify please? I unpdate this system much more often that every two months so I don't understand what happended.

I am using Soldyx not Soldyx RPI. My system would boot but I had problems running Thunderbird, etc.

jlschwartz@solydx ~ $ inxi -Frxz
System: Host: solydx Kernel: 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.2)
Desktop: N/A Distro: SolydXK 8 solydxk
Machine: System: Dell product: Latitude 3340 v: 00
Mobo: Dell model: N/A Bios: Dell v: A10 date: 11/04/2015
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-4005U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 6784
Clock Speeds: 1: 1406 MHz 2: 1229 MHz 3: 1508 MHz 4: 1382 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
bus-ID: 00:02.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile
GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1 Intel 8 Series HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Card-2 Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
Network: Card-1: Intel Ethernet Connection I218-LM
driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f080 bus-ID: 00:19.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (24.0% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SSD_PM87 size: 128.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 31G used: 25G (87%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda8
ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda7
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://repository.solydxk.nl/ solydxk-8 main upstream import
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/smtube.list
deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositori ... ebian_8.0/ /
Info: Processes: 218 Uptime: 9 min Memory: 788.0/7909.2MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.1.28
jlschwartz@solydx ~ $

Please advise next steps. Thanks.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby ilu » 01 May 2017 21:04

I thought your problem with apt-transport-https was the same I had but that does not seem to be the case. You don't need to change anything in /etc/apt/sources.list. I'm wondering why synaptic can't find any repositories then ... Anyway, install the missing package manually:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install apt-transport-https
If there are errors, post the output. Please remember to use code tags [.code] [./code] for the output (without the dots).

I can see from your output that you have a backported kernel installed. I remember you asking about that last year. Since I don't have the backported kernel it can very well be that there was a update yesterday. I'm still on 3.16 so I wouldn't know about that.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby kurotsugi » 02 May 2017 02:15

if apt-get didn't work you can use http in your repo list. you can changet it to https later after you got apt-transport-https

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby jlschwartz » 02 May 2017 13:53

I finally got things to work. Still cannot figure out what caused these issues with a "normal" update. Including updated kernel. I had gone back to the standard 3.16 kernel a long time ago.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby ilu » 02 May 2017 15:12

jlschwartz wrote:I finally got things to work. Still cannot figure out what caused these issues with a "normal" update. Including updated kernel. I had gone back to the standard 3.16 kernel a long time ago.
I'd like to know more about this. I've had several sitauations where suddenly apt wanted to update the whole (regular) system to backports. I always have a close look on updates and I always stopped the update in time. It seems you've had a similar situation and I like to know why this is happening. In my cases the only thing I could figure out was a wonky internet connection but why this would lead apt to install from backports I have no idea.
I posted this https://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=6431 when it happened for the first time. It happened several times since then, on 2 SolydX jessie machines.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby grizzler » 03 May 2017 08:43

ilu wrote:In my cases the only thing I could figure out was a wonky internet connection but why this would lead apt to install from backports I have no idea.
If I remember correctly, this was explained somewhere as: this is what happens when backports is the only repository that can be contacted. I.e. all others fail to produce a package list and are ignored, so backports effectively becomes the only repository available.
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Re: Major Updates today

Postby ilu » 04 May 2017 13:41

This is the only logical explanation. It's just strange to imagine that everything bugs out except backports and I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it myself on several occasions. Is there any difference in the way the repos are addressed? I can't see any difference i sources.list.
I suppose there is no technical way to prevent the system from doing that. And probably no easy way to fix things afterwards for an unexperienced user. Since this has happened not only to me might it be a reason to reconsider the concept of having backports always active?

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby Albert » 21 Jun 2017 18:27

I had this same problem and fixed it today with these instructions. Should /etc/apt/sources.list.d./dmo.list be changed to https also?
edit added:
Oops. No. True that changing http to https in /etc/apt/sources.list make the repositories visible in Synaptic and Software Manager. BUT, changing /etc/apt/sources.list.d./dmo.list to https also screwed Update Manager so that the icon selection failed to ask for password.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby ilu » 21 Jun 2017 20:48

It's more important to change the dmo entry to "jessie" instead of "stable" because stable is now stretch ... And this will screw up update manager.
Albert wrote:BUT, changing /etc/apt/sources.list.d./dmo.list to https also screwed Update Manager so that the icon selection failed to ask for password.
Not sure what you mean by this - changing sources.list has no influence on update manager privileges.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby Albert » 21 Jun 2017 21:13

It was not sources.list, but rather sources.list.d.dmo.list being changed from http to https that caused the Icon to change to a bright red exclamation mark that failed to respond when selected.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby ilu » 21 Jun 2017 21:24

Albert wrote:It was not sources.list, but rather sources.list.d.dmo.list being changed from http to https that caused the Icon to change to a bright red exclamation mark that failed to respond when selected.
The exclamation mark means that you've changed your sources - it doesn't matter in which file the change took place. And if the exclamation mark is unresponsive it means that your change was somehow wrong. It might very well be that dmo doesn't support https.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby Albert » 22 Jun 2017 02:31

I have wrestled my box down to this:

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$ inxi -Sr
System:    Host: nova Kernel: 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A 
           Distro: SolydXK 8 solydxk 
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk-8 main upstream import
           deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
           deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dmo.list
           deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free
$ ~
I also installed: apt-transport-https
To clarify, could you please tell me how, from this point, to make Synaptic and Software Manager able to read/edit repositories.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby ilu » 22 Jun 2017 13:55

I can't tell you. I have never used the Software Manager and I have no idea how it works. I use Synaptic for installation but I try to never edit the sources with it. Synaptic tends to behave strangely if I do and I haven't figured out why. I always edit the sources manually with a text editor. That's the safest way.

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Re: Major Updates today

Postby Albert » 22 Jun 2017 14:05

OK. Thank you.


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