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Combine two distro's

Postby xendistar » 15 Mar 2015 23:00

If there were two distors that you felt would make an exceptional distro if they combined, what would they be??

For me it would be SolydX and Mepis

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby Zill » 16 Mar 2015 12:00

xendistar: AIUI, Mepis is basically dead but, in essence, was a Debian base with the KDE desktop and a few custom utilities. OTOH, SolydX is current, has a Debian base with the XFCE desktop and a few custom utilities.

What advantage would there be in trying to combine these two distros which only have a Debian base in common?

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby Nuke » 16 Mar 2015 13:38

Zill wrote: these two distros ... only have a Debian base in common?
I think perhaps he meant SolydK and Mepis.

I still use Mepis on some of my PCs, and as you say it has been abandoned. I liked it. I think that rather than combining distros, we should just learn to pick up the plus points of others. Mepis had a good default selection of software, particularly with multi-media - didn't need to hunt for codecs etc.

To "combine", as I would understand the word, would require co-operation between the maintainers of both, a teaming up. However, the maintainer of Mepis has gone off the radar.

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby xendistar » 16 Mar 2015 19:19

Zill wrote:xendistar: AIUI, Mepis is basically dead but, in essence, was a Debian base with the KDE desktop and a few custom utilities. OTOH, SolydX is current, has a Debian base with the XFCE desktop and a few custom utilities.

What advantage would there be in trying to combine these two distros which only have a Debian base in common?
Yes well aware of the fact that Mepis is only surving now on community partitcipation now that Warren Woodward has left the scene. I just thought that the two distro complemented each other very well and if in some alternative universe Mepis and SolydXK had cobined they would had a very strong distro (I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with Solyd).

But hey ho I am happy with SolydX

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby rokytnji » 16 Mar 2015 19:55

1st off, before replying. I had to google "AIUI" as I am not Leet speak proficient.

Mepis is alive and well. They build their own xfce 4.12. They have their own repo with package maintainers.
Their distro uses less ram on xfce than SolydX does at idle from a cold boot.
They are Working on MX-15.

Saying Mepis is
Mepis is basically dead
Why?
Because it is now a 2 team distro with community involvement. AntiX and Mepis. Ahem, cough cough........

Sound familiar? Kinda sorta?

Your feelings would be hurt also. By the way. I run all 3. SolydX, MX-14, AntiX 14.
All current, mantained, lean and mean.
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewforum.php?f=98
We have our own monthly snapshot.
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 94&t=37810
Our own youtube tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/user/runwiththedolphin

So, AFAIK (as far as I know), Mepis is thriving quit nicely. Warren who? :D

If I was to combine 2. AntiX and Mepis has already done it. It's called MX-xx
What advantage would there be in trying to combine these two distros which only have a Debian base in common?
Just to clarify and for info
Custom applications driven by developer contributed scripts.

Code: Select all

harry@scuzbucket:~
$ cd /usr/local/bin
harry@scuzbucket:/usr/local/bin
$ ls
add-desktop               desktop-menu-places        phonebooksearch.sh
add-key                   desktop-session            psg
add-start                 desktop-session-exit       ps_initrd.sh
amz                       desktop-session-wallpaper  ps_mem.py
ansi-bars                 desktop_tool.py            reboot
ansi-colors               dict-search                remastercc.sh
ansi-tput                 disconnectshares           remaster-live
antix                     disconnectshares.sh        remaster.sh
antix2usb.py              diskusage                  remove-desktop
antix2usb.sh              du-excludes                restart-X
antixcckeyboard.sh        edit-as-root.sh            rox-as-root.sh
antixccmouse.sh           encrypt-antix              roxuri
antixcc.sh                fancy-prompts.bash         Rox-Wallpaper
antixccslim.sh            fancy-prompts.zsh          run-mksquashfs
antiX-FileManager.sh      fbres                      search-and-replace.py
antixmousedefault.pl      findshares                 search-bar
antixmousedefaultsize.pl  flashplayer-selector.sh    search-bar-icon
antixmousesize.pl         gf                         set-screen-blank
antixmousexmodmap.pl      gg                         slim-login
antixmousexset.pl         GM-set                     sm-lib-apt-tools
antiX-paste               group-management           sm-lib-distro-conversion
antixscreenshot.sh        grub-repair-antix          sm-lib-du-fixes
antixsnapshot             halt                       sm-lib-kernel
antixsnapshot-gui         icewmcc                    sm-lib-kernel-install
antix-system.sh           id_version                 sm-lib-misc-tweaks
archive-create.sh         imdb                       sm-versions
archive-extract.sh        imdb-disc                  smxi
block-advert.sh           imdbe                      speedtest-cli
build-jwm-themes.sh       inxi                       splash-select
burniso                   inxi-gui                   stp
change-fluxmenu-theme.sh  li                         toram-eject
change-icemenu-theme.sh   mountbox                   unplugdrive.sh
change-jwm-theme.sh       mx                         update-default-desktop
cli-installer             nohup.out                  update-jwm-themes.sh
conkytoggle.sh            open-with-menu.sh          urxvt-style
connectshares             paneltoggle.sh             user-management
connectshares-config      persist-config             wallpaper.py
connectshares-config.sh   persist-enabled            wgetpaste
connectshares.sh          persist-makefs             wiki
ddg                       persist-save               xfce4-session-logout
debian.list               phonebookadd.sh            xmms
desktop-defaults-run      phonebookantix.sh          zram
desktop-defaults-set      phonebookcat.sh
desktop-menu              phonebookremove.sh

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby Zill » 16 Mar 2015 20:52

rokytnji wrote:1st off, before replying. I had to google "AIUI" as I am not Leet speak proficient.
Well, my apologies for that. I thought "AIUI" was in common usage and, as a retired old-git myself, I have certainly never considered myself "Leet"! :roll:
rokytnji wrote:... Mepis is alive and well. They build their own xfce 4.12. They have their own repo with package maintainers.
Their distro uses less ram on xfce than SolydX does at idle from a cold boot.
They are Working on MX-15.
Thanks for the update. I ran Mepis many years ago so it is good to know that its successor is still running, even if it seems to have forked via AntiX.

However, going back to the original post, I really can't see any advantage for either SolydX or MX-14 in "combining" as they both use different tools/scripts which, I guess, will have their own pros and cons.

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby rokytnji » 16 Mar 2015 23:17

I guess, will have their own pros and cons.
I cannot agree more. It is why I love choice.
When I go bar hopping. Choice is good. 8-)

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby Nuke » 17 Mar 2015 00:06

rokytnji wrote:Mepis is alive and well. They build their own xfce 4.12. They have their own repo with package maintainers.
Their distro uses less ram on xfce than SolydX does at idle from a cold boot.
They are Working on MX-15.
Sorry, Mepis is dead. The last release was in May 2011, Version 11. There was an alpha of v12, but nothing more. The maintainer was Warren Woodford, and his most recent utterance (that I can find) was in 2012.

AntiX is a lightweight fork of Mepis which originally used the same website as Mepis (and used an area of the forum), done by a guy calling himself "Anticapitalista", who seems to have a political agenda with it (as the name implies). AntiX is not Mepis, not least in having Fluxbox as its default desktop rather than KDE. I did try it briefly. MX-14 is a variant of AntiX with xfce as its desktop, also mainained by Anticapitalista; I must admit I am not sure of the exact relationship between AntiX and MX, only that they are not Mepis.

Today, some previous users of Mepis have moved to AntiX or MX, others like me have moved elsewhere, including to SolydXK. The Main website for MX is called http://www.mepiscommunity.org , but the heading on the home page is "MX and Mepis Community Forum" . I expect they will drop the "Mepis" part of that name soon, because there is hardly any further mention of "Mepis" on the website.

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby Deleted User 2763 » 17 Mar 2015 00:43

Trying to get back on topic.... (sortof)

I have _cross-gradded_ a few Debian based distros.
Generally I'd install a Debian system (like SolydX) then mix/match distro packages and sort out dependencies.
I then completely rip off the warranty sticker and take it to sid.

I've done that with
SoyldX->siduction
#!->siduction
#!->Semplice->siduction

(You get the idea)
Once you move up, tho, it's almost impossible to move back.

-Hinto

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby rokytnji » 17 Mar 2015 02:27

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby Fargo » 17 Mar 2015 04:50

Apart from a few tools unique to Mepis, and the Mepis community repos, I feel that Mepis and SolydK are very similar already. Sure some of those Mepis tools might be nice to have in addition to the unique Solyd tools. But otherwise, I don't see a whole lot more to combine. At least from an end user experience. Underneath, there might be some differences.

Now, if we are dreaming of combining distros... I would combine SolydK and PCLinuxOS. I would take SolydK for the Debian Stable base and the additional tools and features Schoelje has added. Then on top if it I would add the PCLinuxOS Control Center (Derived from Mandrake years ago). I've always loved PCLinuxOS. It always worked on any machine I threw it on and codecs and everything always worked. But I think the best part has been the Control Center. So much power there and so simple to use. I wish it could be ported to Debian, but I think its been tried and given up on by others. Oh yeah, and remasterme is great as well. Its too bad remastersys for Debian has more or less died out.

So why am I not using PCLinuxOS now? I can't stand the rolling release. Far to often an update would break a great working system. I would have never considered SolydXK either except they had the Business Edition from early on. Thats what brought me here

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Re: Combine two distro's

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 17 Mar 2015 14:57

Since SolydXK started off from Mint LMDE and thus Debian base to begin with, I'd say SolydXK has the two distros I always liked paired together. In other words, I guess it's already been done (thankfully). :)


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