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Re: The New look DDM

Postby just » 26 Jan 2015 08:48

dirigible wrote:
...If so then perhaps it would be clearer if [Save] was relabelled as [Install]...
i'd agree with dirigible. [Install] would be clearer than [Save]. i was unsure and was hitting Save mainly because it seemed more suitable than Quit / Help to install something :) . it would be about to change button's label only, no code's modification should be needed, wouldn't it?

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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 26 Jan 2015 08:59

That wouldn't be a problem.
It'll get changed as soon as there were more changes needed in DDM.


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Re: The New look DDM

Postby palimmo » 26 Jan 2015 19:57

Same here.
Nvidia drivers in use but no tick in the corresponding box in DDM.
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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 26 Jan 2015 20:18

palimmo wrote:Same here.
Nvidia drivers in use but no tick in the corresponding box in DDM.
Please, run DDM from a terminal, post back the output and attach the log file /var/log/ddm.log


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Re: The New look DDM

Postby palimmo » 26 Jan 2015 20:39

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 ~ $ ddm
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. please move it to /home/alessio/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf manually
Create list store eval string: Gtk.ListStore(bool, GdkPixbuf.Pixbuf, str, int, int)
First item is column name (multi-column list): Install
First item is column name (multi-column list): 
First item is column name (multi-column list): Device
Create column names: ['Install', '', 'Device']
First item is column name: skip first item
Create column: Gtk.TreeViewColumn("Install", Gtk.CellRendererToggle(), active=0)
Column added: Install
Create column: Gtk.TreeViewColumn("", Gtk.CellRendererPixbuf(), pixbuf=1)
Column added: 
Create column: Gtk.TreeViewColumn("Device", Gtk.CellRendererText(), text=2, weight=3, size=4)
Column added: Device
alessio@alessio-laptop ~ $ 

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get_nvidia                    DEBUG     Loaded graphical driver:
get_nvidia                    DEBUG     Nvidia device found: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [GeForce G 105M]
get_nvidia                    DEBUG     Nvidia driver to use: nvidia-driver
get_broadcom                  DEBUG     Loaded wireless driver:
get_broadcom                  DEBUG     Broadcom device found: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
get_pae                       DEBUG     PAE check: machine=x86_64 / release=3.16.0-4-amd64
get_nvidia                    DEBUG     Loaded graphical driver:
get_nvidia                    DEBUG     Nvidia device found: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [GeForce G 105M]
get_nvidia                    DEBUG     Nvidia driver to use: nvidia-driver
get_broadcom                  DEBUG     Loaded wireless driver:
get_broadcom                  DEBUG     Broadcom device found: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
get_pae                       DEBUG     PAE check: machine=x86_64 / release=3.16.0-4-amd64
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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 26 Jan 2015 21:22

Okay, could you also add the output of these commands:

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lspci -nn -d 10de: | grep VGA
nvidia-detect
lspci -nn -d 14e4:


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Re: The New look DDM

Postby palimmo » 26 Jan 2015 21:45

Schoelje wrote:Okay, could you also add the output of these commands:

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lspci -nn -d 10de: | grep VGA
nvidia-detect
lspci -nn -d 14e4:

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~ $ lspci -nn -d 10de: | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [GeForce G 105M] [10de:06ec] (rev a1)
alessio@alessio-laptop ~ $ nvidia-detect
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [GeForce G 105M] [10de:06ec] (rev a1)
Your card is supported by the default drivers and legacy driver series 304.
It is recommended to install the
    nvidia-driver
package.
alessio@alessio-laptop ~ $ lspci -nn -d 14e4:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1698] (rev 10)
Strange.. according to this output it seems that nvidia drivers are not installed...

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alessio@alessio-laptop ~ $ inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: alessio-laptop Kernel: 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.3) 
           Desktop: KDE 4.14.2 (Qt 4.8.6) dm: lightdm 
           Distro: SolydXK 1 solydxk 
Machine:   System: Packard Bell product: EasyNote TJ65 v: 0100
           Mobo: Packard Bell model: SJV50MV v: Rev
           Bios: Phoenix v: V1.28 date: 10/06/2009
           Chassis: type: 10
CPU:       Dual core Pentium T4300 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 8379 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2100 MHz 2: 1200 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G98M [GeForce G 105M]
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:06ec
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.2.901 driver: nvidia
           Resolution: 1366x768@59.97hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce G 105M/PCIe/SSE2
           GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.125 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.16.0-4-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:002a
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 70:1a:04:45:53:c2
           Card-2: Broadcom NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1698
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: 00:26:2d:5f:5c:c0
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (52.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD3200BEVT size: 320.1GB serial: WD-WX70E99ED623
Partition: ID-1: / size: 12G used: 7.8G (73%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.25GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda7 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: 51.0C gpu: 0.0:53C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 167 Uptime: 2:46 Memory: 1052.4/3961.2MB 
           Init: systemd v: 215 runlevel: 5 default: 2 
           Gcc sys: 4.9.1 alt: 4.4/4.6/4.7/4.8 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301 running in konsole) inxi: 2.1.28 
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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 26 Jan 2015 21:52

Let's see what's installed:

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apt search nvidia | grep ^i
These are my clock speeds:

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Clock Speeds: 1: 2200 MHz 2: 2648 MHz 3: 2200 MHz 4: 2200 MHz 5: 2200 MHz  6: 2407 MHz 7: 2200 MHz 8: 2344 MHz
They also differ.


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Re: The New look DDM

Postby palimmo » 26 Jan 2015 21:59

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alessio@alessio-laptop ~ $     apt search nvidia | grep ^i
i A glx-alternative-nvidia          - allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX prov
i A libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx  - NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries (304xx lega
i A libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx: - NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries (304xx lega
i A libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx- - NVIDIA binary OpenGL 32-bit libraries (304
i   nvidia-detect                   - NVIDIA GPU detection utility              
i A nvidia-installer-cleanup        - cleanup after driver installation with the
i A nvidia-kernel-common            - NVIDIA binary kernel module support files 
i A nvidia-legacy-304xx-alternative - allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX prov
i   nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver      - NVIDIA metapackage (304xx legacy version) 
i A nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms - NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source (3
i A nvidia-settings-legacy-304xx    - tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics d
i A nvidia-support                  - NVIDIA binary graphics driver support file
i   nvidia-xconfig                  - X configuration tool for non-free NVIDIA d
i A xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legac - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (304xx legacy ve
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Re: The New look DDM

Postby fleabus » 26 Jan 2015 23:00

I had a bit of trouble with it just before the holidays, then took that [long] holiday break. The new DDM is working smooth as glass for me now. I never got around to posting back in the DDM thread after the holidays... :oops:

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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 27 Jan 2015 05:55

@palimmo
I think it doesn't see the legacy drivers. I'll take a look at it as soon as I can. I don't have any Nvidia systems here. So, I'll be coding blind and will need your help to test some things for me. Is that okay?


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Could you post some info on your system (inxi -Fxx) and the log file /var/log/ddm.log?


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Re: The New look DDM

Postby just » 27 Jan 2015 16:36

Houston, we have a problem.

Schoelje, i have 2 computers with nvidia-optimus cards, 1st and 2nd. the cards are of slightly different models.

1st: NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M
2nd: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M

from the beginning of time i've always used them alternately in my tests. without distinguishing them in any mode. the result never changed in base of the card used.

the successfull DDM's test was done using the 1st card (555M). today i decided to test DDM on the 2nd one, on 750M.

i can't believe it, because it's impossible, but on the 2nd box DDM doesn't detect nvidia-optimus :shock: .

the "official" debian's method to detect optimus cards - using lspci - confirms that 750M is an optimus card:

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$ lspci -vnn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
01:00.0 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 750M] [10de:0fe4] (rev a1)
$ 
a "human" method to detect optimus cards - using inxi - confirms that 750M is an optimus card:

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$ inxi -Gxx
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0a16
           Card-2: NVIDIA GK107M [GeForce GT 750M] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0fe4
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.2.901 drivers: nouveau,intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.21hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
$ 
the system uses the most recent DDM available, 2.0.2:

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$ apt policy ddm
ddm:
  Installed: 2.0.2
  Candidate: 2.0.2
  Version table:
 *** 2.0.2 0
        500 http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
$ 
i even reinstalled DDM by hand again from here.

yet, when i launch DDM on the 2nd box, either from menu or from terminal, it starts, runs and terminates without a problem, but the only result it returns is

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DDM did not find any supported hardware.
it is not possible, because... it's impossible, but it's true.

when i install bumblebee on this box by hand, it works :!: .

i think the problem lies somewhere on my side. will start investigations now. don't waste your time with this problem. please, forgive me.

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Re: The New look DDM

Postby palimmo » 27 Jan 2015 17:42

Schoelje wrote:@palimmo
I think it doesn't see the legacy drivers. I'll take a look at it as soon as I can. I don't have any Nvidia systems here. So, I'll be coding blind and will need your help to test some things for me. Is that okay?
I'll do all my best. :mrgreen:
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Re: The New look DDM

Postby just » 28 Jan 2015 08:07

an update to "Houston, we have a problem" 2 posts above.

all tests start from the freshly installed solydk64_201501.iso nightly build of 2015-01-24 04:24 1.6G on NVIDIA GeForce 750M optimus card. the situation is as follows.

1. the iso contains DDM version 2.0.1. it doesn't detect the 750M card, returning as a result

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DDM did not find any supported hardware.
2. there's a substantial system update available since the iso's release date

3. updating DDM only to 2.0.2 from here and without doing a full system update doesn't change the situation. DDM 2.0.2 doesn't detect 750M.

4. after the full system update DDM goes to 2.0.2 again. the situation doesn't change. DDM returns the same negative result.

5. at this point, i decided to check not the entire DDM, but only the piece of code that checks for optimus and installs the drivers, comparing my locally saved scripts with the current one. IIRC, the script is called install-nvidia.sc

6. i have two local scripts, those with KernelDriver=nvidia-current-current error, if it helps you to recall them

7. the first one was copy-pasted 2015-01-20 from this post

8. as suggested in this post, the second one was downloaded 2015-01-21 from here

9. at the time of writing, 2015-01-28, this download location, where i was expecting to find the current install-nvidia.sc, is void

10. so i'm not able to compare my local scripts with the current one. but i can check whether they work or not.

11. both local scripts work, correctly detecting 750M as optimus and installing bumblebee for it

conclusion
  • the install-nvidia function from old scripts works correctly
  • i can't compare it with the latest one
  • if the latest function is correct, there may be an error in its caller
that's all, for now.

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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 02 Feb 2015 10:25

@palimmo and @just
I've been working on DDM: http://downloads.solydxk.nl/dev/ddm_2.0.3_all.deb
Could you try this new version but do NOT install drivers. I just need to see if it correctly identifies your cards and loaded drivers.

Please, post back with these files compressed and attached:
  • /var/log/ddm.log
  • /var/log/Xorg.0.log


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Re: The New look DDM

Postby just » 02 Feb 2015 12:19

testing environment:
  • fully updated SolydK64 Stable: solydk64_201501.iso 30-Jan-2015 14:02 1.6G
  • nvidia-optimus video card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
  • initial DDM version: 2.0.2
results with DDM 2.0.2:
  1. DDM starts
  2. doesn't detect any video card and returns

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    DDM did not find any supported hardware.
  3. immediately and violently locks up the system
  4. power-off button is the only way to exit
with DDM updated to 2.0.3 the results are much better:
  1. DDM starts
  2. correctly detects and lists in its window two video cards: Intel and NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M - fantastic!
  3. immediately and violently locks up the system
  4. power-off button is the only way to exit
can't get a screenshot of DDM 2.0.3 with two video cards in it - the computer is completely locked. it doesn't an occasional lockup. i've repeated these launches several times.

after the hardware power-off ddm.log remains void. anyway, both logs (empty ddm + full Xorg) are attached.
Attachments
ddm-xorg-logs.tar.gz
ddm.log is empty. Xorg.0.log is full.
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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 02 Feb 2015 13:05

It should have listed only the Nvidia card and the crash seems very odd. It lists the cards but then crashes the system. It should have written something to the log file, even if it was just that it started (wich it did). So, I suspect something went wrong while writing to the log file (did you have to pass your root password before opening the window?).

Is there any related error in ~/.xsession-errors ?

Could you delete the log file first:

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sudo rm /var/log/ddm.log
and check if it is really removed:

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ls /var/log/ddm.log
Then install the new deb: http://downloads.solydxk.nl/dev/ddm_2.0.3_all.deb

and run from terminal:

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ddm


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Re: The New look DDM

Postby just » 02 Feb 2015 15:13

too many questions, it's difficult to prepare a well-formatted answer.

system restored from a backup, fully updated, returned exactly in the same state as in the previous post (above).

1. after restore and update ddm.log doesn't exist, because DDM has never run. dot.xsession-errors has nothing DDM-related. as well as Xorg.0.log.

2. updating DDM to 2.0.3

3. visually monitoring /var/log content in dolphin for ddm.log (still doesn't exist)

4. launching ddm from terminal. DDM asks for password.

5. ddm.log appears in dolphin's window, so DDM was intended to write smth in it:
It should have written something to the log file, even if it was just that it started (wich it did).
(did you have to pass your root password before opening the window?)
if are you're asking about DDM then yes, after launching ddm in terminal, i have had to enter the password.
Is there any related error in ~/.xsession-errors ?
no, there's nothing DDM-related in it. you may see the file in attachment.
Could you delete the log file first:
sure, even if it doesn't exist :)

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$ sudo rm /var/log/ddm.log
[sudo] password for just:          
rm: cannot remove ‘/var/log/ddm.log’: No such file or directory
$ 
and check if it is really removed:
it simply doesn't exist yet, DDM was never run after restore+update:

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$ ls /var/log/ddm.log
ls: cannot access /var/log/ddm.log: No such file or directory
$ 
the result doesn't change:
  1. DDM 2.0.3 starts
  2. asks for the password
  3. creates /var/log/ddm.log
  4. lists two cards - Intel and Nvidia
  5. starts to freeze the system
  6. power-off button remains the only way to exit
  7. hardware power-off doesn't permit to finish writing ddm.log. it remains empty.
this time though i noticed that the "immediate crash" after DDM's opening is not so immediate. it takes about 10 seconds to freeze the computer:
  1. mouse dies immediately
  2. touchpad dies after 4 seconds
  3. for other 6 seconds i can still move the focus between DDM's window controls with the keyboard
  4. but when i finally arrive to the [Install] button, with TAB and arrows, the keyboard dies as well. so it doesn't react anymore to the final [Enter].
  5. after that, the computer is completely dead
in attachment there are three files:
  • dot.xsession-errors
  • ddm.log
  • Xorg.0.log
each one was saved three times:
  • after the system's restore (the most polished situaton)
  • after the system's update, before the first DDM's run (nothing changes)
  • after the first DDM's run, hardware power-of and power-on
but i don't see anything DDM-related in them.

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Re: The New look DDM

Postby FinnFann » 02 Feb 2015 15:22

just wrote:too many questions, it's difficult to prepare a well-formatted answer.

system restored from a backup, fully updated, returned exactly in the same state as in the previous post (above).

1. after restore and update ddm.log doesn't exist, because DDM has never run. dot.xsession-errors has nothing DDM-related. as well as Xorg.0.log.

2. updating DDM to 2.0.3

3. visually monitoring /var/log content in dolphin for ddm.log (still doesn't exist)

4. launching ddm from terminal. DDM asks for password.

5. ddm.log appears in dolphin's window, so DDM was intended to write smth in it:
It should have written something to the log file, even if it was just that it started (wich it did).
(did you have to pass your root password before opening the window?)
if are you're asking about DDM then yes, after launching ddm in terminal, i have had to enter the password.
Is there any related error in ~/.xsession-errors ?
no, there's nothing DDM-related in it. you may see the file in attachment.
Could you delete the log file first:
sure, even if it doesn't exist :)

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$ sudo rm /var/log/ddm.log
[sudo] password for just:          
rm: cannot remove ‘/var/log/ddm.log’: No such file or directory
$ 
and check if it is really removed:
it simply doesn't exist yet, DDM was never run after restore+update:

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$ ls /var/log/ddm.log
ls: cannot access /var/log/ddm.log: No such file or directory
$ 
the result doesn't change:
  1. DDM 2.0.3 starts
  2. asks for the password
  3. creates /var/log/ddm.log
  4. lists two cards - Intel and Nvidia
  5. starts to freeze the system
  6. power-off button remains the only way to exit
  7. hardware power-off doesn't permit to finish writing ddm.log. it remains empty.
this time though i noticed that the "immediate crash" after DDM's opening is not so immediate. it takes about 10 seconds to freeze the computer:
  1. mouse dies immediately
  2. touchpad dies after 4 seconds
  3. for other 6 seconds i can still move the focus between DDM's window controls with the keyboard
  4. but when i finally arrive to the [Install] button, with TAB and arrows, the keyboard dies as well. so it doesn't react anymore to the final [Enter].
  5. after that, the computer is completely dead
in attachment there are three files:
  • dot.xsession-errors
  • ddm.log
  • Xorg.0.log
each one was saved three times:
  • after the system's restore (the most polished situaton)
  • after the system's update, before the first DDM's run (nothing changes)
  • after the first DDM's run, hardware power-of and power-on
but i don't see anything DDM-related in them.
Just chiming in, but it might help to do a softer hard reset, or to at least see if it works. You should be able to directly instruct the kernel to write to disk and reboot using the following:

alt + SysRq (often PrntScr if one isn't specified on your keyboard...sometimes it's still PrintScr even if another one is specified because keyboard layouts are stupid)

And while holding these press... R...E...I...S...U...B... (BUSIER backwards) in order slowly (around 30 seconds per button is safe...ish). Learned this trick a long time ago. As long as the kernel hasn't panicked itself, this will do a safer than power button hardware shutdown/reset. If there's any logs waiting to be written this SHOULD force them to disk.

This passes commands directly to the kernel. These commands in particular
unRaw (take control of keyboard back from X),
tErminate (send SIGTERM to all processes, allowing them to terminate gracefully),
kIll (send SIGKILL to all processes, forcing them to terminate immediately),
Sync (flush data to disk),
Unmount (remount all filesystems read-only),
reBoot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

Funnily enough this is refered to under the following which highlight it's use case
Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken
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Re: The New look DDM

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 02 Feb 2015 15:27

You forgot to upload the attachment :D

This is going to be very hard to do. I don't have the hardware and the log isn't written.
Does this version work on the machine with the other Nvidia card?


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