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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 10 Dec 2014 12:41

Ok, thanks, guys! Also I was wondering what this new theme was as well. All I got when I updated my VM I use to build the isos with was a new icon set. Everything else looked pretty much the same. But the icon set didn't carry over to the iso because I didn't update the iso from HE to pure Debian Jessie. I figured we aren't doing that just yet and probably won't until I'm told to.

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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Rocky » 10 Dec 2014 14:35

@RavenLX - could tek10 have perhaps upgraded by using Schoelje's instructions re HE to Jessie at http://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5095

Or maybe some confusion re Schoelje's Nightly 64 bit ISO topic at http://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5110
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 10 Dec 2014 16:54

Not sure, Rocky. I use the HE - Jessie upgrade you linked to on the VM that creates the isos as it's required for the process to work properly. However, I did not do that to the 32-bit ISO build. Which is why patzy doesn't see the new theme changes.

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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby tek10 » 10 Dec 2014 16:59

I've been testing the solydx32_201412.iso and by new theme, I was refering to greybird-solydx plus the Evolvere icons. My working install of solydx was done about 18 months ago and I haven't done a new install since, just updates. I thought those were changes to this 32-bit testing iso?
Regardless, I'm going to incorporate greybird-solydx into my working install.

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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 10 Dec 2014 17:00

RavenLX wrote:Not sure, Rocky. I use the HE - Jessie upgrade you linked to on the VM that creates the isos as it's required for the process to work properly. However, I did not do that to the 32-bit ISO build. Which is why patzy doesn't see the new theme changes.
I'll have to check if all packages were installed correctly but I won't have much time this week. SolydK will use QtCurve with the Evolvere icon theme and an adapted Greybird for Gtk3.


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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby tek10 » 10 Dec 2014 17:07

Looks like I missed the discussions about Qtcurve. I'll check out those topics.

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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 10 Dec 2014 17:45

It is for the 64-bit versions. For the community editions something else can be decided.


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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Snap » 10 Dec 2014 18:01

From my humble POW, I think we should keep the official theming in these two 32 bit versions for coherence since they're intended to be kinda "semi-official" releases... And most users will tweak the defaults anyway. :mrgreen:

It would be different if anyone decides to make any other kind of spin with SolydXK as a base like SolydX DKAS-SCAD or CRS. Specific theming might be unique and a characteristic of the spin. My 2 cents.
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby tek10 » 10 Dec 2014 20:01

I also believe the 32-bit versions should maintain the same theme as the 64-bit.

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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby grizzler » 12 Dec 2014 19:18

That's the idea, I think. The 32-bit versions should follow the 64-bit ones, with the possible exception of packages like GIMP, which 'the community' thinks shouldn't be dropped from the ISOs.

Actually, I've compared the 32-bit versions with their 64-bit counterparts and there are some differences I haven't been able to explain yet (mostly because I haven't had the time to really look into it...).

For comparison I used unpacked copies of the 64-bit (not so) nightly builds and the latest 32-bit ISOs, fully updated as mentioned here and all of them dist-upgraded today. Of course I got the differences with regard to GIMP, transmission and the like, but there are others that require further investigation.
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Snap » 12 Dec 2014 19:32

Well, at first instance it seems like SolydXK64 was already slimmed down. I favor that.
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Snap » 12 Dec 2014 19:40

xterm missing in K64? :roll:
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 12 Dec 2014 19:50

Cool!
I've checked the 64-bit versions with your lists:

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SolydX64
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removed gnome-desktop-data
removed gnome-user-guide
icoutils removes playonlinux
removed irqbalance
removed libcgmanager0 and dependency cgmanager
install libjpeg-turbo-progs 
removed libnih-dbus1
removed libnih1
removed libnuma1
libtsan0 removes linux-headers e.o.
libwx packages removes too much I don't know about
removed xorg

SolydK64
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removed gdb
removed gdbserver
removed irqbalance
removed kio-mtp
libbs2b0 removes mplayer2 mplayerthumbs
removed libc6-dbg
libcdio packages remove mplayer2 mplayerthumbs
removed libgnome2-canvas-perl
removed libgnome2-perl
removed libgnome2-vfs-perl
liblsan0 removes virtualbox e.o.
removed libnuma1
libquvi packages remove mplayer2 mplayerthumbs
libreoffice-gtk replaced with libreoffice-kde
libtsan0 removes linux-headers e.o.


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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby grizzler » 12 Dec 2014 20:45

Thanks for that. Saves me some investigating... ;)
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 12 Dec 2014 21:30

I'm still here watching the thread. I probably won't be able to do anything (unless it's an emergency/immediate need) until after New Year's Day though. Holiday stuff is keeping me busy right now. But if you guys need anything, give me a shout.

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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby grizzler » 12 Dec 2014 21:47

No emergency, but I think we should synchronise our SolydK32 build setups some time in January. I've made a couple of changes to the one I have here, to fix some of the differences I saw when I ran the comparison for the first time. I've got a shell script for all that, but it still needs some tweaking.
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 12 Dec 2014 22:29

I'm working on a new Welcome Screen.
It gives new users the possibility to install a pre-selected set of applications in these categories:
  • Business applications (GnuCash, Dolibarr, Letodms, ProjectLibre)
  • Home applications (Gimp, Inkscape, Shotwell, Clementine, Handbrake, SoundConverter, Pitivi, Transmission)
  • System applications (Gparted, VirtualBox, FileZilla)
Obviously, this is intended for users not familiar with Linux.
I'm still working out the best way to install the MySql based applications, but I'm getting close.

To give you an idea:
solydxk-welcome.png


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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 12 Dec 2014 22:37

grizzler wrote:No emergency, but I think we should synchronise our SolydK32 build setups some time in January. I've made a couple of changes to the one I have here, to fix some of the differences I saw when I ran the comparison for the first time. I've got a shell script for all that, but it still needs some tweaking.
Just let me know when a new iso is needed and how to get it updated, and I'll be glad to get it done. I'll assume updates will be the usual update/dist-upgrade using the same HE repos?

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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Snap » 12 Dec 2014 23:05

It looks promising, Schoelje! Great Job.

But I have to point out something...
Home applications (Gimp, Inkscape [...]
Home? We enthusiasts use them, but these two are pro-grade applications. I wouldn't mix them with rest in that category.

What about a new category. Something like technical, pro or something else for this kind of apps. This might include Darktable, Kdenlive... Closed source equivalents licenses cost an arm and a leg. We are too used to free software and maybe that line between common user and pro targeted is a bit too blurred. :mrgreen:
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Re: Community ISO Testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 13 Dec 2014 07:22

The user now has six pages to go through.

I don't know if another page for the professional user merits the effort: the welcome screen targets people unknown to Linux to help them get acquainted with some of the packages available to them. People who distinct between pro and home applications already know what they want and need and how to get them.


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