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E4Defrag

Posted: 07 Sep 2015 05:09
by Qwertius
I am wondering if this tool will have a place in SolydXK ?

I appreciate that the question of 'defragging' in Linux can be a hot topic : so I am putting it out there to hear opinions.

I believe that in certain circumstances : defragging of large files is warranted.

And that is where E4Defrag comes in.

The jury is no doubt : still out on this matter : but it is worth reading up on.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oapOKNzNJNs

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 07 Sep 2015 06:14
by grizzler
Qwertius wrote:I appreciate that the question of 'defragging' in Linux can be a hot topic
Not really. It's more of a non-topic.

Yes, if a partition becomes really full, defragging might be useful (better option: increase the size of the partition or buy a bigger disk). Otherwise, not so much. That's just how the ext filesystem works.

http://www.howtogeek.com/115229/htg-exp ... agmenting/

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 07 Sep 2015 08:46
by belze
Defrag?!? Wasn’t that a thing of the past?

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 07 Sep 2015 08:49
by Qwertius
belze wrote:Defrag?!? Wasn’t that a thing of the past?
May be : may be not.

Take a look at the Youtube link I posted.

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 07 Sep 2015 09:45
by Zill
Qwertius: I don't think defragging any linux filesystem is really necessary for the majority of users. As grizzler pointed out, if defragging becomes necessary then you really need a larger disk or partition!

Having said that, you should already have e4defrag as it is a part of the e2fsprogs package and this was installed by default on my SolydXK system...

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roger@dino:~$ apt policy e2fsprogs
e2fsprogs:
  Installed: 1.42.12-1.1
  Candidate: 1.42.12-1.1
  Version table:
 *** 1.42.12-1.1 0
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

roger@dino:~$ whereis e4defrag
e4defrag: /usr/sbin/e4defrag /usr/share/man/man8/e4defrag.8.gz

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 07 Sep 2015 09:52
by Arjen Balfoort
e2fsprogs is installed on both SolydX and SolydK.
e4defrag is found here: /usr/sbin/e4defrag
run

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man e4defrag
as su to get started.

[EDIT]
Missed Zill's post...

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 07 Sep 2015 10:06
by grizzler
Qwertius wrote:Take a look at the Youtube link I posted.
I did. But I stopped when the guy said "The truth is, most people probably don't need to worry about this..."

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 08 Sep 2015 02:53
by Qwertius
grizzler wrote:
Qwertius wrote:Take a look at the Youtube link I posted.
I did. But I stopped when the guy said "The truth is, most people probably don't need to worry about this..."
Thats a bit unfair mate.

I expect that everyone has a differing point of view and differing levels of experience. I offered it up as someone who doesn't have the answer : but is willing to learn.

I am fairly knew to this forum, but judging from a number of replies I have received, I am beginning to sense the same old type of intolerance and passive~aggressive behaviors I have seen in other linux forums.

Not exactly welcoming or conducive to learning.

Time to say good-bye I think.

I will keep on using SoyldXK for the simple reason that I think it works very well.

But in future : i won't be coming back to ask any questions.

No point getting my head chewed off.

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 08 Sep 2015 03:08
by belze
English is not my native language. If i offended in any way i'm sorry and i apologize.

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 08 Sep 2015 05:34
by Arjen Balfoort
@Qwertius
I'm sorry that you feel offended. I've re-read the posts here and I haven't seen any remark directed to you personally. Just statements of facts and people trying to help. Of course, it's up to you to decide if that is enough to leave this forum.

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 08 Sep 2015 06:28
by grizzler
Qwertius wrote:
grizzler wrote:
Qwertius wrote:Take a look at the Youtube link I posted.
I did. But I stopped when the guy said "The truth is, most people probably don't need to worry about this..."
Thats a bit unfair mate.
In what way? It describes my actions exactly: I looked at the video until he said that, at which point I realised he had nothing new to tell and closed the browser tab.
I am fairly knew to this forum, but judging from a number of replies I have received, I am beginning to sense the same old type of intolerance and passive~aggressive behaviors I have seen in other linux forums.
So when someone tells you he doesn't agree with you and offers links to pages that support his view, that's being intolerant and passive-agressive? Right.
No point getting my head chewed off.
You're reading something in the comments that isn't there. If you want heads getting chewed off, go take a look at the Debian user forum.

Re: E4Defrag

Posted: 08 Sep 2015 09:34
by Zill
Qwertius wrote:I am wondering if this tool will have a place in SolydXK ?
It already is in SolydXK.
Qwertius wrote:... I appreciate that the question of 'defragging' in Linux can be a hot topic : so I am putting it out there to hear opinions.
Which is why you have been given opinions.
Qwertius wrote:... I believe that in certain circumstances : defragging of large files is warranted.
This is why e4defrag is in SolydXK by default.

We tried to answer your questions as politely and accurately as possible so I am puzzled as to why you have taken offence.

I doubt if you would find another IT forum more friendly and helpful than this one so I hope we will see you again as, with your long Linux experience, I am sure you have a lot to offer.