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Postby GeneC » 15 Mar 2013 22:39

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gene@solydx64:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host: solydx64 Kernel: 3.10-11.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: SolydXK
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M4A88TD-M/USB3 version: Rev X.0x Bios: American Megatrends version: 1501 date: 08/09/2012
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 955 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz 3: 800.00 MHz 4: 3200.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF104 [GeForce GTX 460] X.Org: 1.14.3 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1680x1050@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 460/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 325.15
Audio:     Card-1: NVIDIA GF104 High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Card-2: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster driver: snd_ca0106 
           Card-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.10-11.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 48:5b:39:ee:b9:e7
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 750.2GB (0.7% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500HHTZ size: 250.1GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: HDS721050CLA362 size: 500.1GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 25G used: 5.0G (22%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 2.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
 
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  gene@solydx64:~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://packages.solydxk.com/production/ solydxk main upstream import # "SolydXK"
           deb http://community.solydxk.com/production/ solydxk main # "SolydXK-Comm"
           deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free #"SID"
           deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free #"SID Multimedia" 

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Anyone else tracking Debian SID, please add relevant info on this thread..... :P
It will help the team in heading off potential problems with future SolydXK Update Packs.


The use of apt-listibugs (in the repos) is a help.
Tracking other Debian Sid forums is also a plus...


Siduction
http://siduction.org/index.php?name=PNp ... 62572eecb7

Aptosid
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... c27c096455

LMDE
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 97#p406197
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=67502
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby zerozero » 16 Mar 2013 01:34

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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby wayne » 16 Mar 2013 03:09

Gene,

haha, you cannot stay away from tracking SID.. :lol:

I dare not post on SID , cause not supported :mrgreen:

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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby zerozero » 16 Mar 2013 03:25

wayne wrote:I dare not post on SID , cause not supported
:lol: actually it's very useful for us to spot in advance potential problems; so, please, yes, do post 8-)
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 16 Mar 2013 09:16

GeneC wrote:There is a Nvidia upgrade (304.84)
That means I need to update DDM.


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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 16 Mar 2013 11:01

As you can see there were also upgrades to xorg and python, but nothing broke. Nothing has broken in my old LMDE XFCE SID partition, so I really did not expect any issues.
SID has been quiet, but I expect a flood of Issues this Spring when Wheezy goes Stable.... :P

There was one bug reported to Gnumeric, but I really did not pay any attention to it, and let it upgrade. It appears to be alright, though I am NOT a Gnumeric power-user... :lol:
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 16 Mar 2013 14:29

Found one serious bug with the new Nvidia driver (304.84). I could not drop out of XServer to CLI (command line).

Details here =
http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=245

Basically don't upgrade to this driver, or use the Nvidia (313.18-2) from Debian Experimental.
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby cwwgateway » 16 Mar 2013 15:02

I was wondering how long it'd take you to upgrade to Debian Sid :P . I've had no issues on SolydX 32-bit tracking Sid. It has the following specs:

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christopher@chris-desktop:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host chris-desktop Kernel 3.2.0-4-486 i686 (32 bit) Distro SolydXK 1 debian
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-UP-) cache 512 KB flags (sse sse2) bmips 5187.14 clocked at 2593.574 MHz
Graphics:  Card Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller X.Org 1.12.4 Res: 1440x900@60.1hz
           GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Intel 865G x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version 1.3 Mesa 8.0.5 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller driver snd_intel8x0 BusID: 00:1f.5
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.24
Network:   Card Intel 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller driver e100 v: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI at port b800 BusID: 01:08.0
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 82.0GB (-) 1: /dev/sda Maxtor_6Y080L0 82.0GB
Partition: ID:/ size: 32G used: 3.3G (11%) fs: rootfs ID:/ size: 32G used: 3.3G (11%) fs: ext4
           ID:swap-1 size: 1.48GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Info:      Processes 109 Uptime 3 min Memory 142.1/486.1MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.4.23 
There isn't much that would cause any issues (it has intel graphics), but it's running smoothly. I had one problem, but it's unrelated to Sid.

LO 4 from the SolydXK Testing repo also works fine on it.
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 16 Mar 2013 15:13

Hi cww... :)

Decided to dump my LMDE SID. Going on two years old and getting lots of "cruft" from experiments... ;)

SolydX boots so much faster than LMDE ever did.
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby cwwgateway » 16 Mar 2013 15:48

Yeah, I dumped LMDE (not the unofficial LMDE, but the official ones) a little while ago mostly because it got in the way of where I was going (a light Testing/Sid install). I had 3 Debian NetInsts going for a while (one Wheezy which was going to become Stable, one Testing, and one Sid), and they were faster than LMDE.

However, SolydXK is just as fast as they are (if not faster), and it is much more complete than Debian. I'm still thinking of what to do with my left over Debian Testing install. I'll probably install Debian Wheezy over it once it goes Stable. It'll give me the chance to play with backports and it will be less maintenance than a rolling install.
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 16 Mar 2013 16:13

Still keeping LMDE-Gnome Shell - SID to play with.
I am one of those odd-ducks that like the Shell (As long as I install 12-15 good Extensions). They make ALL the difference. :P
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 16 Mar 2013 16:30

If anyone's interested: I've uploaded a new DDM that should take care of nvidia drivers with a new version number.
Normally I had to change the code for that, but now it should check the available version number of nvidia-glx and use that.
I just tried it on SolydK 64-bit and it worked like a charm.


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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby cwwgateway » 16 Mar 2013 16:32

GeneC wrote:Still keeping LMDE-Gnome Shell - SID to play with.
I am one of those odd-ducks that like the Shell (As long as I install 12-15 good Extensions). They make ALL the difference. :P
In my early days with Linux (right after Mint 12 was released), I did lots of work finding and tweaking extensions for Gnome Shell to make it look exactly how I wanted it. And then Cinnamon came out and made all of "my" work moot (it was mostly other people's work that I applied to my setup). I loved Cinnamon in the early days (I still like it now), but I prefer Xfce and KDE now.

I've been considering keeping an LMDE Cinnamon install around someplace, but I just don't know where to put it (and I have lots of other installs I'd like to have - an OpenBox/CrunchBang one, a Sid one, a Stable one, an Arch one, etc).
Schoelje wrote:If anyone's interested: I've uploaded a new DDM that should take care of nvidia drivers with a new version number.
Normally I had to change the code for that, but now it should check the available version number of nvidia-glx and use that.
I just tried it on SolydK 64-bit and it worked like a charm.
That's good :) . I'd test it but I have Optimus :? ...
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby zerozero » 16 Mar 2013 19:28

GeneC wrote:Found one serious bug with the new Nvidia driver (304.84). I could not drop out of XServer to CLI (command line).

Details here =
http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=245

Basically don't upgrade to this driver, or use the Nvidia (313.18-2) from Debian Experimental.
from this bug report http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611452 seems to indicate that the problem is also present on older versions of nvidia-glx; what i can't see is the pattern to reproduce this and why you were not affected before.
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 16 Mar 2013 21:42

zerozero wrote:
GeneC wrote:Found one serious bug with the new Nvidia driver (304.84). I could not drop out of XServer to CLI (command line).

Details here =
http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=245

Basically don't upgrade to this driver, or use the Nvidia (313.18-2) from Debian Experimental.
from this bug report http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611452 seems to indicate that the problem is also present on older versions of nvidia-glx; what i can't see is the pattern to reproduce this and why you were not affected before.
You know, it may have been present before (304.64-4 in Testing) without me noticing it. (New install and perhaps never dropped out of X-Server). I only noticed when I installed SMXI, then went to install Liquorix, and new Nvidia.... :?:
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 16 Mar 2013 22:35

I'm happy to say that DDM 0.5.8 in testing successfully installs the Nvidia drivers (304.84) in sid.
The current version in production of DDM fails miserably: it just hangs. So, don't use that in sid or experimental.


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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby greywolf » 17 Mar 2013 04:48

You know, it may have been present before (304.64-4 in Testing) without me noticing it. (New install and perhaps never dropped out of X-Server). I only noticed when I installed SMXI, then went to install Liquorix, and new Nvidia.... :?:
Perhaps not. I used Smxi to put the Siduction 3.8-3.towo-siduction-686-pae kernel on my SolydXK KDE 32bit hybrid install (using sid/experimental constrained by pinning) yesterday with the nVidia 304.64 in use and it dropped in & out of cli without any drama.

That whole series of 304.xx nVidia drivers seemed to be problematic on particular graphics cards and work fine on others?!

I was going to go to full Sid myself but I kind of thought it was a touch 'disrespectful' to the developers to simply use SolydXK as a "launching pad", so to speak, this early in my use of it? :) I should do it soon I guess and bed it down before the Wheezy release and the flood gates open? Where was that spare partition again?

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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 17 Mar 2013 12:25

greywolf wrote:
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That whole series of 304.xx nVidia drivers seemed to be problematic on particular graphics cards and work fine on others?!
With Nvidia GTX 460 I only noticed this with the (304.84)
I was going to go to full Sid myself but I kind of thought it was a touch 'disrespectful' to the developers to simply use SolydXK as a "launching pad", so to speak, this early in my use of it? :) I should do it soon I guess and bed it down before the Wheezy release and the flood gates open? Where was that spare partition again?

Greywolf.
How about TWO spare partitions... 8-)
One for SolydXK Testing Repos and one for SID..

Both will help with testing and debuggin.... ;)
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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby greywolf » 17 Mar 2013 14:01

How about TWO spare partitions... 8-)
One for SolydXK Testing Repos and one for SID..

Both will help with testing and debuggin.... ;)
Yeah, OK. I've only got about 25GB to spare on the machine at the moment and I usually like to leave enough temporary space to test video production and BIG compiles, but I guess that is enough for two partitions. I don't run separate /home as I have all the relevant folders (Documents, bin, images, music, videos, etc) soft-linked to a separate /data partition so the only thing in <user>/home is downloads folder and the normal config files/folders.

Are you running your Sid with or without an /etc/preferences file?

Running 'dist-upgrade' on Sid is akin to educating your daughter about boys - sweety, most of the time everything will be fine, but, if you have ANY doubt, say NO!! :)

There is a thread elsewhere isn't there on the "testing" repos, with instructions? I had best read up before I set it up just to make sure I understand what you want to actually test and what the repos should be, etc. This is like the old LMDE testing stuff isn't it (Incoming was it?), getting ready for the monthly updates - not Debian Testing direct?! Maybe they should be called 'pre-update' or something to remove any confusion?

OK, couple of Clonezilla sessions and a bit of partition rearrangement and I should be set to go in a couple of days. Are there specific reporting threads or just 'freelance'?

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Re: SolydX-64bit tracking Debian SID

Postby zerozero » 17 Mar 2013 14:19

greywolf wrote:There is a thread elsewhere isn't there on the "testing" repos, with instructions? I had best read up before I set it up just to make sure I understand what you want to actually test and what the repos should be, etc. This is like the old LMDE testing stuff isn't it (Incoming was it?), getting ready for the monthly updates - not Debian Testing direct?! Maybe they should be called 'pre-update' or something to remove any confusion?
so far we have this settled this way
(if we find out in the process that this needs changing, we will consider it)

http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewforum.php?f=32 (sub-forum for SolydXK Production repos upgrade news) >> our Stable repo
http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewforum.php?f=33 (sub-forum for SolydXK Testing repos upgrade news) >> our Testing Repo

http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewforum.php?f=34 (sub-forum for Debian Testing upgrade news)
http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewforum.php?f=35 (sub-forum for Debian Sid upgrade news)
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