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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby Frobozky » 02 Feb 2014 15:13

For clarity's sake, Siduction is a distribution. Examples of distributions are Ubuntu, SolydXK, Redhat, and Mint. People using Siduction run into the same problems that people using SolydXK (Unstable) run into. I find the Siduction forum a useful place because they will be experiencing the same failures that I am. I do not add siduction sources to my sources list. If I did I would no longer be using SolydXK, but instead a hybrid of two distribution, pehaps three if you consider Debian a distribution.
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby tuxic » 03 Feb 2014 04:18

The source from Debian is the same. Being running Semplice Linux using this "hibrid" and my system is clean as a whistle... wonder if you can achive the same results being a lone wolf in the Debian Sid Jungle... Forgot to mention another invaluable tool: SMXI Script:

http://smxi.org/

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby Frobozky » 03 Feb 2014 14:54

Hi Tuxic,
Being running Semplice Linux using this "hibrid" and my system...
Are you using SolydXK? To set up SolydK with Debian Sid (unstable) I followed the directions given by ZeroZero here:

http://forums.solydxk.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=162.

Not sure what "clean" represents, perhaps no errors? Anyway I am glad you are satisfied with what you are doing!

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 07 Feb 2014 18:54

Time to hold back on SID upgrades (xorg removals)

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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-vesa
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgcrypt20 libxshmfence1
The following packages have been kept back:
  firefox
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libio-socket-ssl-perl xserver-common xserver-xorg-core
3 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 5 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,867 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,522 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] ... N
Should be ok in a day or two.
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby zerozero » 07 Feb 2014 22:46

Hi Gene :)
it's the migration to xserver 1.15

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zerozero@zerozero-vb:~$ apt policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: 2:1.14.5-1
  Candidate: 2:1.15.0-2
  Version table:
     2:1.15.0-2 0
/we wait :mrgreen:
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 08 Feb 2014 11:51

zerozero wrote:Hi Gene :)
it's the migration to xserver 1.15
....
/we wait :mrgreen:
Hi 'z'... :D

Yep! Not yet!
https://release.debian.org/transitions/ ... r1.15.html
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby smitty1 » 08 Feb 2014 15:59

I was able to du my SolydX-sid installation theis morning, no removal and no problems. :D

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 08 Feb 2014 16:11

smitty...

^ Yep! All upgrades went through ok, now...

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The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgcrypt20 libxshmfence1
The following packages will be upgraded:
  fonts-freefont-ttf git git-man gnome-keyring init-system-helpers initscripts libcaca0 libio-socket-ssl-perl libnspr4 libnspr4-0d php5-cgi php5-common
  python-apsw sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils xserver-common xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-vesa
23 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 20.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 1,946 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby tuxic » 18 Feb 2014 00:16

GeneC wrote:
Anyone else tracking Debian SID, please add relevant info on this thread..... :P
It will help the team in heading off potential problems with future SolydXK Update Packs.


The use of apt-listibugs (in the repos) is a help.
Tracking other Debian Sid forums is also a plus...


Siduction
http://siduction.org/index.php?name=PNp ... 62572eecb7

Aptosid
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... c27c096455

LMDE
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 97#p406197
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=67502
@Frobosky- Tracking Siduction is a plus in the Debian Sid Adventure. The tutorial that i posted a link from the guys at Linux-BBQ works with other distros BASED or changed to Sid-based. It's just an advise... who wants to follow it can do it.
But believe me... it works!!!

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby wayne » 18 Feb 2014 09:33

d-u fully.
Sid is healthy :mrgreen:

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby greywolf » 19 Feb 2014 01:03

Sorry to be OT and an old naysayer here, but

@tuxic do you not realise that people with epilepsy use the internet just like you do????!!!!! Your avatar is the PERFECT way to trigger an epileptic fit in someone! Only takes one look; and I know from family experience.

As you cannot be in every room with someone reading your posts so as to call the paramedics; would it be too much to ask for you to tone down the avatar to something less dangerous.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby zerozero » 19 Feb 2014 01:11

[Solved]
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby tuxic » 19 Feb 2014 11:09

@greywolf: I'm sorry! My sincere excuse for not being aware of the potential risk.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby tuxic » 19 Feb 2014 11:50

My inxi -F

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oscar@solyd-sid:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host: solyd-sid Kernel: 3.12-11.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: SolydXK 1 testing
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 version: Rev 1.xx
           Bios: American Megatrends version: 1503 date: 01/11/2013
CPU:       Octa core AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core (-MCP-) cache: 16384 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 4000.00 MHz 2: 4000.00 MHz 3: 1400.00 MHz 4: 1400.00 MHz 5: 4000.00 MHz 6: 1400.00 MHz 7: 4000.00 MHz 8: 1400.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850] 
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850] 
           X.Org: 1.15.0 driver: N/A Resolution: 1680x1050@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.3, 128 bits) GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.2.2
Audio:     Card-1: 2x Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV770 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4850/4870] driver: snd_hda_intelsnd_hda_intel 
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.12-11.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: ********************
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2120.4GB (17.8% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 120.0GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: ST31000528AS size: 1000.2GB 3: id: /dev/sdc model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 21G used: 6.9G (36%) fs: ext4 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 75.0,68.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 242 Uptime: 49 min Memory: 675.9/7888.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.18 
Now I have a partition with SolydX upgraded directly to Debian Sid following the links that I have posted. The upgrade was realized after the changes and scripts recommended in this link (have to sign up and login first):

http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=620

The dist-upgrade using smxi (obviously out of X) was clean as a whistle. My system is running and grilling more stable that the best Ubuntu or Mint installation.

http://smxi.org/

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby greywolf » 19 Feb 2014 12:09

tuxic wrote:@greywolf: I'm sorry! My sincere excuse for not being aware of the potential risk.
The disease itself is no less prevalent than it used to be, but the public awareness of its issues does seem to wane from time to time.

Anyway, thank you for the adjustment (@ ZZ for the swift action) and again, sorry to drift off topic!

Back to that pesky ol' 'Uncle Sid' of mine - having some bother with an experiment running completely 'deb-multimedia' free. Might have to post a question or two tomorrow if I can't sort it.

cheers,
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby kurotsugi » 19 Feb 2014 13:36

not an exact experiment, I did that on testing, I've succeeded once but totem refuse to play several video format.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby tuxic » 20 Feb 2014 15:51

Just a copy of my sources.list...

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oscar@solyd-sid:~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/deb-multimedia.list
           deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
           deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main future
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sid.list
           deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ experimental main
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/experimental unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/solydx.list
           deb http://packages.solydxk.com/production/ solydxk main upstream import
           deb http://community.solydxk.com/production/ solydxk main
And my system is alive and kicking!!!

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby smitty1 » 22 Feb 2014 12:04

Caution upgrading this morning. Apt-listbugs reports grave error in libc6 & libc6:i386 causing all applications to segfault.
Bug Report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=739758

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 27 Mar 2014 12:22

Todays updates breaks some Gnome. (Transition from 3.10 to 3.12) best wait a bit to DU.

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Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abiword libabiword-3.0 libchamplain-0.12-0 libchamplain-gtk-0.12-0 libcogl-pango12 libcogl12
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libcogl-pango20 libcogl-path20 libcogl20 libwayland-egl1-mesa
The following packages will be upgraded:
  blends-common ca-certificates cpio dbus dbus-x11 evince-common evince-gtk foomatic-db gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0
  gir1.2-json-1.0 gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-symbolic hardinfo inxi libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libdbus-1-3
  libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3 libgmp10 libgmpxx4ldbl libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libjson-glib-1.0-0 libjson-glib-1.0-common libpackagekit-glib2-16
  libpipeline1 libruby2.0 libtelepathy-glib0 lightdm-gtk-greeter linux-libc-dev mobile-broadband-provider-info openprinting-ppds ruby2.0 synaptic
38 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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After this operation, 18.3 MB disk space will be freed.
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ALSO

http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=4407.0
(to be removed)

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gdm3 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gnome-games gnome-nibbles gnome-session gnome-shell
  gnome-shell-extensions libmutter0b libtotem0 lightsoff quadrapassel
  swell-foop totem
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby fleabus » 27 Mar 2014 13:06

I have two Sid partitions, one SolydX, the other SolydK - Ran Siduction for a while but removed to start from the bottom up with a straight Debian Sid install, for further adventures and highjinks... :D

Anyhoo, Xorg is broken on the K partition for some reason, and have been unable to find reference to anything recent-DU-related which might break X. I removed Nvidia just to be sure, but X still doesn't start. I was wondering if perhaps I missed something - has had anyone read of any recent problems starting X after a recent DU? If someone can point me to something I've missed, Thank you in advance, in the exteme! :D

If not, then I guess it's a more common X ailment that I need to dig up, as X works fine on the SolydX Sid partition. Last DU for both these partitions was 24 March 2014, appx 01:00.

The Symptoms are KDM simply returns me to a login screen after I enter my password. I'm able to get to a console login just fine; startx from command line also blows up, returning me to a $ prompt. I've had a preliminary look at Xorg.0.log - which didn't mean much to me as yet, I need to do a whole lotta more reading -- if this isn't Sid/KDE related, I'll get about researching X blowups.. :?

It'll be a new one for me, not something I've had trouble with before...


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