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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby smitty1 » 27 Mar 2014 13:15

My D-U went fine this morning. Solyd X 64 Sid. Looks like the trouble only affects the gnome-shell DE?

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby fleabus » 27 Mar 2014 13:28

smitty1 wrote:My D-U went fine this morning. Solyd X 64 Sid. Looks like the trouble only affects the gnome-shell DE?
Probably so. I guess I've got a non-du related X explosion going here. My last DUs were 3-24. X is working fine on the SolydX partition. I thought it might be KDE/Sid DU related, but I guess it's time to dig into X. Thanks Smitty! :)

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby zerozero » 27 Mar 2014 13:57

Dave,
i'm afraid that is a KDE breakage;
the latest debian-kde updates don't particularly like the kde version we have installed :mrgreen:
in the next days (as we update our version of kde) this **should** be solved.
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 27 Mar 2014 14:07

smitty1 wrote:My D-U went fine this morning. Solyd X 64 Sid. Looks like the trouble only affects the gnome-shell DE?
Yes, the shell, but other Gnome apps as well. It wanted to remove my abiword on an XFCE setup... ;)
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby GeneC » 27 Mar 2014 14:28

fleabus wrote:I have two Sid partitions, one SolydX, the other SolydK - Ran Siduction for a while but removed to start from the bottom up with a straight Debian Sid install, for further adventures and highjinks... :D

Anyhoo, Xorg is broken on the K partition for some reason, and have been unable to find reference to anything recent-DU-related which might break X. I removed Nvidia just to be sure, but X still doesn't start. I was wondering if perhaps I missed something - has had anyone read of any recent problems starting X after a recent DU? If someone can point me to something I've missed, Thank you in advance, in the exteme! :D

If not, then I guess it's a more common X ailment that I need to dig up, as X works fine on the SolydX Sid partition. Last DU for both these partitions was 24 March 2014, appx 01:00.

The Symptoms are KDM simply returns me to a login screen after I enter my password. I'm able to get to a console login just fine; startx from command line also blows up, returning me to a $ prompt. I've had a preliminary look at Xorg.0.log - which didn't mean much to me as yet, I need to do a whole lotta more reading -- if this isn't Sid/KDE related, I'll get about researching X blowups.. :?

It'll be a new one for me, not something I've had trouble with before...
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Nope. Running Nvidia and no issues with xorg at all lately. Must be some other issue with your install... This Gnome issue today was the first hold back in many months. SID has been a lamb.. :lol:
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby fleabus » 27 Mar 2014 21:54

zerozero wrote:Dave,
i'm afraid that is a KDE breakage;
the latest debian-kde updates don't particularly like the kde version we have installed :mrgreen:
in the next days (as we update our version of kde) this **should** be solved.
Thank you ZZ! Much relief, as KDE/Sid/X non-cooperation had been my first conclusion (guess? :? )
-- as Xfce Sid partition worked fine...

:mrgreen: :oops: Just now catching up on the Testing thread too...

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby kurotsugi » 28 Mar 2014 04:29

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    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
      abiword libabiword-3.0 libchamplain-0.12-0 libchamplain-gtk-0.12-0 libcogl-pango12 libcogl12
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      libcogl-pango20 libcogl-path20 libcogl20 libwayland-egl1-mesa
    The following packages will be upgraded:
      blends-common ca-certificates cpio dbus dbus-x11 evince-common evince-gtk foomatic-db gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0
      gir1.2-json-1.0 gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-symbolic hardinfo inxi libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libdbus-1-3
      libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3 libgmp10 libgmpxx4ldbl libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libjson-glib-1.0-0 libjson-glib-1.0-common libpackagekit-glib2-16
      libpipeline1 libruby2.0 libtelepathy-glib0 lightdm-gtk-greeter linux-libc-dev mobile-broadband-provider-info openprinting-ppds ruby2.0 synaptic
    38 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 28.6 MB of archives.
    After this operation, 18.3 MB disk space will be freed.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] N
I guess this issue is caused by libcogl20 transition https://release.debian.org/transitions/ ... ogl20.html and the source is libclutter break libcogl12. it might be a quick transition since it should be easily solved by change the dependency to libcogl20 :3
by the way, today modemmanager is also broken. network manager 9.8.8 only exist on experimental.

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The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libmbim-glib0{a} libqmi-glib0{a} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  cups-browsed cups-filters cups-filters-core-drivers libcupsfilters1 
  libfontembed1 libopenjpeg5 modemmanager{b} openjdk-7-jdk openjdk-7-jre 
  openjdk-7-jre-headless openjdk-7-jre-lib python-numpy 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  icedtea-7-jre-jamvm 
12 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 59.0 MB of archives. After unpacking 2,897 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 modemmanager : Breaks: network-manager (< 0.9.8.2-1) but 0.9.8.0-5 is installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

     Remove the following packages:
1)     modemmanager                

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby tuxic » 28 Mar 2014 08:31

My hybrid system with Solyd-X / Siduction and some Linux-BBQ scripts is running smooth...
The dist-upgrade was perfect.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby fleabus » 28 Mar 2014 20:40

GeneC wrote:Running Nvidia and no issues with xorg at all lately. Must be some other issue with your install... This Gnome issue today was the first hold back in many months. SID has been a lamb.. :lol:
I never thought I'd say it's great to hear that something's broke, but in this particular situation that's actually very good to hear! :lol: Thanks Gene, Smitty, zz...

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby smitty1 » 29 Mar 2014 13:16

Sid is cranky today.

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critical bugs of systemd (-> 204-8) <Outstanding>
 #742322 - systemd aborts when activating a service via a broken socket unit
grave bugs of network-manager (0.9.8.0-5 -> 0.9.8.8-4) <Outstanding>
 #742950 - network-manager: After updating to network-manager/0.9.8.8-4: connecting to network fail: No session found for uid
serious bugs of systemd (-> 204-8) <Outstanding>
 #740345 - systemd: configuration/arch-any files under /usr/lib/
Summary:
 systemd(2 bugs), network-manager(1 bug)
Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...] 
These may be only minor gltches. Systemd is not used in solyd yet, and the network manager bug may depend on individual set ups. But this is on top of another bug yesterday that affects icedove. This is the busiest apt-listbugs has been for me this whole cycle :shock:

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby fleabus » 30 Mar 2014 07:29

That du I did on 3-24? That was the first du I had done since end of december. Over 900 packages were upgraded, over 1100 on the K partition. I'm amazed I didn't blow off all the manhole covers in the neighborhood! :lol:

Anyway, there was a long list of bug reports to go with both these upgrades, and a lot of reading up on them. Again it was amazing I got thru those DUs at all. That'll teach me to let a Sid partition lie around for too long... :shock: :?

When KDE calms back down I'll run them both again....

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby wayne » 20 Apr 2014 10:41

few days ago sid wanted to remove network manager so I did not proceed.

today try to d-u, saw this bug
Debian Bug report logs - #745233
libhogweed2: should have versioned depend on newer libgmp10

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=745233

could not figure out if it can upset my installation..

there is no longer issue on network manager removal...
so I took the risk.

fully d-u.. reboot, check and all is well.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby fleabus » 20 Apr 2014 13:38

wayne wrote:could not figure out if it can upset my installation..
Yeah, had a few of these in the past... where apt-listbugs shows one that I can't figure if it'll bork things. So I make sure I have that archive b4-du.. ;)

Just for laughs, the other day when I ran the UP on the production partitions, happened to have listbugs installed on one of them, and it came up with a huge list of bugs! :lol: BUT it was Schoelje's UP, so I didn't give it a second thought, everything went fine. :mrgreen:

Meanwhile my Sid situation seems to have reversed itself. Now the SolydK-Sid partition boots into the desktop just fine with Nvidia (3.31-49 is it?) While the SolydX-Sid will boot into the desktop only with nouveau. Still trying to straighten this one out... :?

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby Orbmiser » 23 Apr 2014 07:46

Didn't know to post here or start my own thread?
Yep moved up to SID and during boot throwing up some errors tho doesn't seem to affect using desktop.

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Long screen lines of udev socket fail and finally ends the long line with No Such File or Folder.
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Should I be concerned and any info about or how to resolve would be appreciated.
Update: Seems it's a bug and I'm not the only one. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/20 ... 00793.html.
Debian Bug report logs - #717613
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=717613

Also tonights Apr. 23rd updates broke my auto-logon and presents logon screen instead of going to desktop.
Even tho System Settings>Login Screen>Convenience have Enable Auto-Login enabled.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby fleabus » 23 Apr 2014 12:43

Orbmiser wrote:during boot throwing up some errors tho doesn't seem to affect using desktop.
Hi Orb, Re the Udev socket errors, might have something to do with systemd clashing with hal:

http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2832

GeneC posted this link to the freedesktop.org systemd HowTo.

And...

https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging_systemd

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby Orbmiser » 23 Apr 2014 15:34

Just did the

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sudo apt-get remove --purge hal hal-info
sudo reboot
And seems everything went fine. And now on to solving the logon autostart issue. As now even tho I changed
System Settings>Login Screen>Theme from SolydK Schoelje to Oxygen-Air Xavier Araque it doesn't stick and cannot change to other Login theme. And my enable Auto-Login is broken.

So any insights as will be searching and researching the problem myself also.
Thanks again for the solution to the udev-hal issue.

UPDATE: Nevermind had another issue and said "SID isn't fer me!" and went back to production. Was fun to check out but way too much breakage. Seems bad timing also on my part with the transistion to systemd and all.
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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby kurotsugi » 24 Apr 2014 04:16

you might need to check on the config file and whether if it got changed by certain programs.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby kurotsugi » 01 May 2014 13:42

reporting in...

sid d-u yesterday kill my pulseaudio. I forget what exactly got updated on that date but any program require pulseaudio won't start until pulse got killed. the good news, removing pulse will fix this issue. the bad news, after one day tinkering with my laptop I found that pulseaudio is dead but I can't debug it at all. dmesg simply tells nothing and 'pulseaudio -vvvv' command got freezed in the middle without any usefull information.

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby wayne » 05 May 2014 10:59

d-u today.

sid wants to remove alsa-base.

checked with aptosid forum,
slh said:
It's safe and intended (alsa-base is pretty much an empty package by now, with its previous functionality (udev rules) merged into udev and kmod).
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... pic&t=2783


my d-u went without issue.

sound OK with alsa-base removed

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Re: Breakages and News - SolydXK-tracking Debian SID

Postby tuxic » 12 Aug 2014 13:30

No new post since May... something wrong?


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