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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby kurotsugi » 22 Nov 2015 05:16

AFAIK noveau isn't removed, instead the module is blacklisted so that the propietary module will be used. Though, not sure about the propietary driver state. It could be the driver is indeed buggy or something is wrong during building the module. If the one provided by debian didn't perhaps the one from nvidia will. You can use sgfxi to install it.

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby MAYBL8 » 22 Nov 2015 15:28

kurotsugi,
I've tried propriary and debian. Both result in some problem.
I have searched and tried different things to make it work but it just won't at this time.
Can you suggest a test starting point to try to troubleshoot the issue.
I don't see any bug reports out there in debian testing that lists my issue.
I would think that someone else would have this issue also.
Thanks
Dan


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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby belze » 22 Nov 2015 16:38

I would suggest to remove any file conf related to both nouveau and nVidia. Using VESA you could login back and use ddm
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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby MAYBL8 » 22 Nov 2015 16:46

So would I issue the command as root apt-get purge nvida* and nouveau*


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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby kurotsugi » 22 Nov 2015 16:53

X log file and dmesg would be a good start to investigate the issue but I'm not sure if we could fix it by ourself. You can filter the message either by 'dmesg -l warn' or 'dmesg -l err'. If we're lucky adding some boot parameter like 'nomodeset' might works. However, in most cases we can only wait the problem fixed in upstream. Else, using older kernel might also works. If you didn't have older kernel you could try using liquorix or towo custom kernel.

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby belze » 22 Nov 2015 17:30

kurotsugi wrote:If you didn't have older kernel you could try using liquorix or towo custom kernel.
dmz (liquorix) ore suited for debian testing according to their website (i use this kernel). towo is siduction's one, targeting debian sid: be careful.

be sure to have kernel headers

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apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
if you installed nvidia using nvidia's installer do:

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sh NVIDIA*.run --uninstall
to get rid of debian's nvidia packages use:

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apt-get purge *nvidia*
remove any xorg.conf and xorg.xonf.d file

have a look in /etc/modprobe.d/ folder if any reference to nvidia or nouveau is noted. If any edit action is taken, than do a

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update-initramfs -u
remove nouveau:

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apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
take a look at modeset option in grub

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nano /etc/defaults/grub
note: i do have a optimus card, so i don't use nvidia so much...
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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby MAYBL8 » 22 Nov 2015 19:15

Here is the results of what I have done do far.
I am going to install liquorix next via smxi

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solydk64 ~ # sh NVIDIA*.run --uninstall
sh: 0: Can't open NVIDIA*.run
solydk64 ~ # apt-get purge *nvidia*
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package *nvidia*
E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
E: Couldn't find any package by regex '*nvidia*'
solydk64 ~ # rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
solydk64 ~ # rm /etc/X11/xorg.xonf.d
rm: cannot remove ‘/etc/X11/xorg.xonf.d’: No such file or directory
solydk64 ~ # cd /etc/X11
solydk64 X11 # ls
app-defaults             rgb.txt                           xorg.conf-bu-2015-11-12-18:03:50   xorg.fnoc   Xsession.options
cursors                  X                                 xorg.conf-bu-2015-11-12-18:24:23   Xreset      xsm
default-display-manager  xinit                             xorg.conf-bu-2015-11-19-18:38:56   Xreset.d    XvMCConfig
fonts                    xkb                               xorg.conf-bu-2015-11-20-17:10:22   Xresources  Xwrapper.config
ja_JP.eucJP              xorg.conf.backup                  xorg.conf-bu-2015-11-20-17:23:23   Xsession
ja_JP.UTF-8              xorg.conf-bu-2015-10-28-20:41:47  xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original  Xsession.d
solydk64 X11 # apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 511 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 376992 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (1:1.0.11-1+b1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
solydk64 X11 # cat /etc/defaults/grub 
cat: /etc/defaults/grub: No such file or directory
solydk64 X11 # cat /etc/default/grub 
# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
#   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -d -s 2>/dev/null || echo SolydXK`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

# Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs
# This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains
# the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...)
#GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef"

# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
#GRUB_TERMINAL=console

# The resolution used on graphical terminal
# note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE
# you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'
GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080x32

# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux
#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true

# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"

# Uncomment to get a beep at grub start
#GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"
solydk64 X11 # cat /etc/modprobe.d
cat: /etc/modprobe.d: Is a directory
solydk64 X11 # cd /etc/modprobe.d
solydk64 modprobe.d # ls
alsa-base-blacklist.conf  alsa-base-blacklist.conf.dpkg-bak  alsa-base.conf  alsa-base.conf.dpkg-bak  mdadm.conf


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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby kurotsugi » 23 Nov 2015 07:36

well...perhaps I was late :3
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5876.0
it stated that it was a bug in the kernel. newest 4.2 or newer kernel should fix the issue.

blindly purging stuff without proper investigating (in our case, X log file and dmesg) is a good recipe to create mess. I'm not even sure if the damage of removing X config file would be a recoverable one. at this point I can't think a better option other than clean reinstall.

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby belze » 23 Nov 2015 10:08

kurotsugi wrote:well...perhaps I was late :3
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5876.0
it stated that it was a bug in the kernel. newest 4.2 or newer kernel should fix the issue.

blindly purging stuff without proper investigating (in our case, X log file and dmesg) is a good recipe to create mess. I'm not even sure if the damage of removing X config file would be a recoverable one. at this point I can't think a better option other than clean reinstall.
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deleting xorg.conf files is not such a damage and restore a working situation is not so complicated, of course one has to avoid bugs with nividia blobs and kernels.
i fully agree with this sentence
blindly purging stuff without proper investigating (in our case, X log file and dmesg) is a good recipe to create mess.
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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby kurotsugi » 23 Nov 2015 11:30

yes...personally I think it's wiser to move it somewhere instead of deleting it since user might have custom config which couldn't recreated by machine. please don't take it too serious. I have an accute tendency to be over cautious :3

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby MAYBL8 » 23 Nov 2015 12:24

Thanks guys for the cautionary advice. But my method (which might be dangerous to some) is more of a brute force method.
I may make mistakes. But that is how I choose to learn. Learn by fixing my mistakes and then never do that again or I know what happens when I do a certain thing.
I have rebuilt my machine dozens of times. Not an issue to me.
This time I wanted to methodically try some things and document them so I could eliminate certain items from my problem to try to get to what I wanted to work.
Thanks for your help and I understand because of the way I might do something you don't want to help. That is ok with me.
I will figure it out.
Would you like me to start a different thread for documenting this process. It might be trial and error.
Thanks
Dan


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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby MAYBL8 » 26 Nov 2015 15:36

Anybody having problems with KDE5 Freezing up and causing graphics corruption?
I switched to XFCE on my Testing machine and it is working just fine. Just a problem with KDE5


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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby kurotsugi » 28 Nov 2015 09:32

Yes. It's a known issue for plasma 5. There's a workaround in siduction site for this issue.

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby kurotsugi » 01 Dec 2015 15:34

apt (1.1~exp9) experimental; urgency=medium

A new algorithm for pinning has been implemented, it now assigns a
pin priority to a version instead of assigning a pin to a package.

This might break existing corner cases of pinning, if they use multiple
pins involving the same package name or patterns matching the same
package name, but should overall lead to pinning that actually works
as intended and documented.

-- Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> Mon, 17 Aug 2015 14:45:17 +0200
be carefull with your du. my apt pinning now ruined due to this issue :3

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby MAYBL8 » 05 Dec 2015 18:50

MAYBL8 wrote:Anybody having problems with KDE5 Freezing up and causing graphics corruption?
I switched to XFCE on my Testing machine and it is working just fine. Just a problem with KDE5
kurotsugi,
Yes. It's a known issue for plasma 5. There's a workaround in siduction site for this issue.
Can you point me where to find the work around. I can't find it.
Thanks so much for your help.


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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby kurotsugi » 06 Dec 2015 12:46

Simply disable bluetooth.service of systemd the link is on grizzler's thread about problems on current EE.

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby freebeekey » 06 Dec 2015 20:14

over one hundred updates yesterday but today was over 200. several kde and plasma so maybe we'll get some bugs fixed. :D

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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby MAYBL8 » 07 Dec 2015 12:15

I haven't had that many updates. I update everyday. When was the last time you updated?

Edit:
I just upgraded one of my other testing machines and it had 237 updates. It hadn't updated since Friday.


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Re: Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

Postby freebeekey » 07 Dec 2015 14:22

I only update once a week since I use my stable install as my daily driver. I run my testing install on my weekend. :D

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Re: Tracking XFCE SID - 10/24/2015 DU - Forced Pulseaudio

Postby Chris M » 30 Dec 2015 14:02

Chris M wrote:Did a apt-get dist-upgrade today, 10/24/15, tracking sid:

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Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libunique-1.0-0 xfce4-mixer
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
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  libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulsedsp libspeexdsp1
  libwebrtc-audio-processing-0 libxfce4panel-2.0-4 libxfce4ui-2-0 pavucontrol
  pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils rtkit
  xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
The following packages will be upgraded:
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Get:9 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libxfce4panel-2.0-4 amd64 4.12.0-3 [195 kB]
Get:10 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libxfce4ui-2-0 amd64 4.12.1-2 [101 kB]
Get:11 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main pavucontrol amd64 3.0-3+b2 [112 kB]
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Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
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Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libunique-1.0-0 xfce4-mixer
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
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root@asus:/# apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libunique-1.0-0 xfce4-mixer
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 485 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 109524 files and directories currently installed.)
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As you can see, ibunique-1.0-0 and xfce4-mixer were deprecated, and pulseaudio was installed. Pulseaudio may already be included in SolydX, so this may mean nothing for most here. But for anyone with a pure sid debian installation, upgrading xfce4 removes xfce4-mixer in favor of pulseaudio. When I attempted to remove xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, synaptic wanted to remove xfce4.

I don't think this was intended by debian.

Edit:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=785846
Debian XFCE maintainer Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:Pulseaudio plugin was ACCEPTED today, so I've just pushed a xfce4 package with xfce4-mixer dependency replaced by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin.
Read the entire thread. xfce4-mixer could make a comeback. They're having problems with gstreamer1.0, so Perez intentionally pushed out xfce4-mixer in favor of pulseaudio.
It's been a while since I've checked on this, but there was a "final" post in the Debian Bug thread on this issue, and Debian has officially thrown in the towel on xfce4-mixer. You can completely remove it from your Testing or SID installations. I did it through Synaptic, and it doesn't show up as install-able after removal.

Edit: libunique-1.0-0 gets the boot, also. A dist-upgrade today showed it as removable.


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