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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby zerozero » 09 Apr 2014 19:41

Schoelje wrote:I'll take this as a "nice to have".
For the majority (pointing to our repositories, and not mixing with other repositories) UM works fine as it is now.

There are more pressing matters that need testing right now:
  • PAE/Nvidia breaks.
  • We haven't tested BE/BO yet.
  • SolydX32 hasn't been tested yet.
with delay :roll:
- the PAE/nvidia test that you did was with the legacy 304.xx or with the 331.xx?

i'm asking because this topic http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3432 led me to find these 2 bug reports
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=740097
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=743907
both with legacy 304.xx
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 09 Apr 2014 19:46

No legacy drivers, just the latest.


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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby ScottQuier » 09 Apr 2014 21:46

I just ran the testing script for SolydX 64 on dedicated partitions:

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sudo parted -l
[sudo] password for scott: 
Model: ATA WDC WD5000AAKS-6 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt

Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags
 1      1049kB  17.2GB  17.2GB  linux-swap(v1)
 2      17.2GB  39.2GB  22.0GB  ext4
 3      39.2GB  61.1GB  22.0GB  ext4
Setting up process:
  1. Fresh install using 201401 iso
  2. Fully update and dist-upgrade - get it fresher :)
  3. Install Nvidia driver:

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    sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver nvidia-xconfig
    sudo nvidia-xconfig
    sudo reboot
From this point, I followed the directions in the testing script.

Some items of note discovered during testing:
  • Running updatemanager from terminal to update the updatemanager (yeah, figure that one out if you can) did successfully update the update manager. However, attempting to run the fresh updatemanager:

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    updatemanager -t
    was successful only in installing the icon in the panel. That icon was unresponsive to mouse clicks. Log out, log in, and it was then responsive per normal. Edit to Add - I missed step 2 of the test script - close UM from tray. That might have accounted for it?
  • The updatemanager ran without an issue - this was successful. Even successfully updated the Nvidia driver with no issues.
  • Terminal dist-upgrade ran into a SERIOUS issue - the update stalled early in the update after all the packages had been downloaded; stalled while attempting to restart cups. I could not kill the apt-get process. I had to reboot the computer. From that point, running dist-upgrade generated an error (with a suggested correction which worked). Second time dist-upgrade genreated a different error (with a suggested corrective action - which worked). Third time was the charm. Please see all notes and terminal capture in file 20140409_SolydX_Term_Quier.txt.
Time to do the SolydK :)
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 09 Apr 2014 23:07

@schoelje: Thanks for the grub fix. That worked! That's going into my database of Linux incantations and fixes. 8-)

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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby ScottQuier » 09 Apr 2014 23:49

SolyK 64 on partition .... Not a success

Before the update, everything worked well. After the update, anything having to do with KDE getting information from the filesystem is very, very slow. Dolpin slow to load (see http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php? ... 77&p=31416 for quick discussion of the types of behavior I'm seeing). Attempted the fix indicated (remove Nvidia, reboot, install Nvidia, reboot) with no change in behavior. In fact, whether the video driver is Nvidia or nouveau - no difference. Hmmmmm.....

ETA: Once Dolphin is loaded, it's just as quick as usual accessing the file system. Starting another instance of Dolphin just as slow as the first one, regardless of whether the first one is still running or not.

Anyway see attached...
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 10 Apr 2014 00:10

Scott: I wonder if that's an Nvidia problem? I didn't have that problem in 64 SolydK (partition boot). It all worked just as well as my production version - no slowdowns, etc.).

Unless I just got lucky. I don't have an nvidia card (mine's Intel). Though I don't know why would a graphics driver slow down a file manager? (I'm not sure what it needs to load, etc. as I don't know exactly how all that works.)

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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby RcyberN » 10 Apr 2014 00:30

Scott,

What's the output if you start Dolphin from Konsole? What errors are you seeing?

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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby stelios » 10 Apr 2014 01:01

Also, could you install "glances" and run it from the terminal? Does it show any strange disk activity or services sucking up CPU cycles?

Is it the same with thumbnail preview set on and off? Are video thumbnails in particular on or off? If yes, do you use ffmpegthumbs of mplayerthumbs? Can you disable all Dolphin services and see if the problem persists? Have you set up any network folders or any network shares? Can you look at "places" and see if there are any devices there that shouldn't be? Perhaps it is trying to mount something and fails.

Finally, can you give the command

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tail -f /var/log/{dmesg,syslog}
ans see what happens there (if anything) when dolphin slows down?

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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby ScottQuier » 10 Apr 2014 10:44

RavenLX, RcyberN, stelios - All good suggestions

@RavenLX - I don't think it's Nvidia problem. I've not had similar with this or other cards before.

@RcyberN, @stelios - I'll post back with answers to your (and other's if others post) questions/suggestions later today. I'm at work right now and it'll be about 2000GMT (1500 EST) before I can get started on this.
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby ScottQuier » 10 Apr 2014 20:55

OK, the winner for the best advice goes to (drum roll please!) ..... RcyberN

Starting dolphin from the terminal produced these messages:

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Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QDBusObjectPath)
Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QDBusObjectPath)
dolphin(5769) KXMLGUI::ActionList::plug: Index  19  is not within range (0 -  11 
dolphin(5769)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." 
What may be significant is that it was only after the last line was written to the terminal that dolphin started. And dolphin started RIGHT away. The KXMLGUI message might have appeared in the same burst, I can't be sure.

Searching the net for the first line produced these two relevant links: These are what I've found. I'm sure zerozero will find the Debian bug report; I just don't know how to look for it.

Anyway, the second indicated a chance that removing ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc might solve the problem. So, renamed it, logged out, logged back in and everything is snappy again!

This is the "problem" kwinrc file:

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scott@ktest1 ~/.kde/share/config $  cat kwinr.bak
[$Version]
update_info=kwin_remove_effects.upd:kwin4.7_effects

[Compositing]
OpenGLIsUnsafe=false

[Desktops]
Number=1

[Effect-BoxSwitch]
TabBox=false
TabBoxAlternative=false

[Effect-Zoom]
InitialZoom=1

[TabBox]
DesktopMode=1
ShowTabBox=true
And this is what was created after I logged back in:

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scott@ktest1 ~/.kde/share/config $ cat kwinrc
[Compositing]
OpenGLIsUnsafe=false

[Desktops]
Number=1
ETA: An additional thought just slipped in the cracks between all the rocks in my head .... This entire dist-upgrade was applied to a virgin KDE install. I wonder if I had run the dist-upgrade after I had applied one or more changes to the KDE (via System Settings editor) if that would have changed anything? Would the default kwinrc file have been overwritten/refreshed to a better state by the simple act of implementing one or more DE settings?
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby zerozero » 10 Apr 2014 21:39

it is strange :D my kwinrc is a lot more complex (that fact alone means nothing of course)

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[$Version]
update_info=kwin_on_off.upd:kwin_on_off,kwin_focus1.upd:kwin_focus1,kwin3_plugin.upd:kde3.2,kwin_remove_effects.upd:kwin4.7_effects,kwin_focus2.upd:kwin_focus2,kwin.upd:kde3.0r1,kwin.upd:kde3.2Xinerama

[Compositing]
AnimationSpeed=2
Backend=OpenGL
Enabled=true
GLColorCorrection=false
GLCore=true
GLLegacy=false
GLPreferBufferSwap=a
GLTextureFilter=2
GLVSync=true
GraphicsSystem=raster
HiddenPreviews=5
OpenGLIsUnsafe=false
UnredirectFullscreen=false
XRenderSmoothScale=false

[Desktops]
Number=6
Rows=2

[Effect-BoxSwitch]
TabBox=false
TabBoxAlternative=false

[Effect-Cube]
BackgroundColor=195,195,195
BorderActivate=9
BorderActivateCylinder=9
BorderActivateSphere=9

[Effect-DesktopGrid]
BorderActivate=1

[Effect-FlipSwitch]
BorderActivate=9
BorderActivateAll=9

[Effect-MouseClick]
Color1=53,103,137
LineWidth=1.37
RingCount=6
RingLife=309
RingSize=31

[Effect-PresentWindows]
BorderActivate=9
BorderActivateAll=7

[Effect-Zoom]
InitialZoom=1
MousePointer=1
ZoomFactor=1.4

[ElectricBorders]
Bottom=None
BottomLeft=None
BottomRight=None
Left=None
Right=None
Top=None
TopLeft=None
TopRight=None

[Plugins]
kwin4_effect_blurEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_boxswitchEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_coverswitchEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_cubeEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_cubeslideEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_dashboardEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_desktopgridEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_dialogparentEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_diminactiveEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_dimscreenEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_explosionEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_fadeEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_fadedesktopEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_fallapartEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_flipswitchEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_glideEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_highlightwindowEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_invertEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_kscreenEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_loginEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_logoutEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_lookingglassEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_magiclampEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_magnifierEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_maximizeEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_minimizeanimationEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_mouseclickEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_mousemarkEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_outlineEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_presentwindowsEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_resizeEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_scaleinEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_screenedgeEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_screenshotEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_sheetEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_showfpsEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_showpaintEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_slideEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_slidebackEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_slidingpopupsEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_snaphelperEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_startupfeedbackEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_taskbarthumbnailEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_thumbnailasideEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_trackmouseEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_translucencyEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_windowgeometryEnabled=false
kwin4_effect_wobblywindowsEnabled=true
kwin4_effect_zoomEnabled=true

[PopupInfo]
PopupHideDelay=1000
ShowPopup=false
TextOnly=false

[Script-desktopchangeosd]
PopupHideDelay=1000
TextOnly=false

[Style]
BorderSize=1
ButtonsOnLeft=MS
ButtonsOnRight=IAX
CustomButtonPositions=true
PluginLib=kwin3_oxygen
ShowToolTips=true

[SubSession: 69291b8d-0375-48d3-9ee6-e75c9fa0f63d]
active=-1
activities1=69291b8d-0375-48d3-9ee6-e75c9fa0f63d
activities2=69291b8d-0375-48d3-9ee6-e75c9fa0f63d
activities3=69291b8d-0375-48d3-9ee6-e75c9fa0f63d
clientGroup1=0
clientGroup2=0
clientGroup3=0
count=3
desktop1=1
desktop2=2
desktop3=2
fsrestore1=0,0,0,0
fsrestore2=0,0,0,0
fsrestore3=0,0,0,0
fullscreen1=0
fullscreen2=0
fullscreen3=0
geometry1=0,0,1440,842
geometry2=303,277,770,550
geometry3=0,31,1440,842
iconified1=true
iconified2=false
iconified3=false
keepBelow1=false
keepBelow2=false
keepBelow3=false
maximize1=3
maximize2=0
maximize3=3
opacity1=1
opacity2=1
opacity3=1
resourceClass1=firefox
resourceClass2=virtualbox
resourceClass3=virtualbox
resourceName1=navigator
resourceName2=qt-subapplication
resourceName3=qt-subapplication
restore1=0,0,720,0
restore2=294,246,788,590
restore3=400,55,658,561
sessionId1=10686f6d65000137201124600000043590037
sessionId2=10686f6d65000137215488000000043590070
sessionId3=10686f6d65000137215521100000043590074
shaded1=false
shaded2=false
shaded3=false
shortcut1=
shortcut2=
shortcut3=
skipPager1=false
skipPager2=false
skipPager3=false
skipSwitcher1=false
skipSwitcher2=false
skipSwitcher3=false
skipTaskbar1=false
skipTaskbar2=false
skipTaskbar3=false
stackingOrder1=8
stackingOrder2=6
stackingOrder3=7
staysOnTop1=false
staysOnTop2=false
staysOnTop3=false
sticky1=false
sticky2=false
sticky3=false
userNoBorder1=false
userNoBorder2=false
userNoBorder3=false
windowRole1=browser
windowRole2=
windowRole3=
windowType1=Normal
windowType2=Normal
windowType3=Normal
wmClientMachine1=localhost
wmClientMachine2=localhost
wmClientMachine3=localhost
wmCommand1=firefox
wmCommand2=/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox
wmCommand3=/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox --comment Mint KDE --startvm a5d4e13d-f9c0-4442-a4e4-0e8e44e13f98 --no-startvm-errormsgbox

[TabBox]
DesktopMode=1
ShowTabBox=true

[Windows]
ElectricBorderCooldown=350
ElectricBorderDelay=150
ElectricBorderMaximize=true
ElectricBorderTiling=true
ElectricBorders=0
IgnoreFocusStealingClasses=kio_uiserver
RollOverDesktops=true
and is non-problematic (so far :mrgreen: )
in the meantime, looking around, this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304204 seems to indicate that the issue might be more complex (tho the bug is still open)

there's 2 bug reports (that i could find) at debian reporting the same symptoms (but unsure if it's exactly the same cause)
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=674446
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=717932
they are not new bugs and there is not much heat around them :roll:
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 10 Apr 2014 22:13

I've been working for the past two days to solve some very annoying bugs in UM.
I think I did it!

Several changes:
  • dist-upgrade (or upgrade for BE/BO) is now used to extrapolate the list with upgradable packages.
  • Most user choices are now done by UM. UM uses the default selection when possible (as if the user hits the ENTER key). UM waits 5 seconds before continuing. The only thing that needs to be done manually by the user are the debconf choice menus.
The info page (see the OP frame) has been adapted accordingly.

Tomorrow I'll be away to help a friend with his computer (going from XP to XK), but I'll check back in the weekend.


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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby Deleted User 2764 » 10 Apr 2014 22:43

@Scott: Great news and congrats to RcyberN for getting the right answer. 8-) I too didn't have the issue so I didn't know what it was. Thanks for giving us the how to on how to fix it.

@schoelje: Awesome that you're helping a friend upgrade from XP to XK! :) Are they going X or K? I think the more SolydXK gets out, the more people will make the switch. This is a great time to advertise SolydXK! Lots of folks need a new OS!

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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby stelios » 10 Apr 2014 22:49

Schoelje wrote:I've been working for the past two days to solve some very annoying bugs in UM.
I think I did it!

Several changes:
  • dist-upgrade (or upgrade for BE/BO) is now used to extrapolate the list with upgradable packages.
  • Most user choices are now done by UM. UM uses the default selection when possible (as if the user hits the ENTER key). UM waits 5 seconds before continuing. The only thing that needs to be done manually by the user are the debconf choice menus.
The info page (see the OP frame) has been adapted accordingly.

Tomorrow I'll be away to help a friend with his computer (going from XP to XK), but I'll check back in the weekend.
I just installed the new UM. The main window now tells me correctly that there are no new updates, but the icon tells me that there are updates available.

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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby ScottQuier » 10 Apr 2014 23:12

Just ran the entire test again. Here's the process and the steps taken:
  1. As above, started with a fresh 201401 install of K,
  2. Then, before changing sources.list to testing, did the dist-upgrade to make it fresher
  3. The the video driver

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    # apt-get install nvidia-driver nvidia-xconfig
    # nvidia-xconfig
    # reboot
  4. After the reboot, played around with the System Settings editor, resulting in this for a ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc

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    scott@ktest2 ~ $ cat .kde/share/config/kwinrc
    [Compositing]
    AnimationSpeed=3
    Backend=OpenGL
    Enabled=true
    GLColorCorrection=false
    GLCore=true
    GLLegacy=false
    GLPreferBufferSwap=a
    GLTextureFilter=2
    GraphicsSystem=raster
    HiddenPreviews=5
    OpenGLIsUnsafe=false
    UnredirectFullscreen=false
    XRenderSmoothScale=false
    
    [Desktops]
    Number=2
    Rows=1
    
    [Effect-Zoom]
    InitialZoom=1
    
    [Plugins]
    desktopchangeosdEnabled=false
    kwin4_effect_blurEnabled=true
    kwin4_effect_coverswitchEnabled=false
    kwin4_effect_cubeEnabled=false                                                                                 
    kwin4_effect_cubeslideEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_dashboardEnabled=true                                                                             
    kwin4_effect_desktopgridEnabled=true                                                                           
    kwin4_effect_dialogparentEnabled=true                                                                          
    kwin4_effect_diminactiveEnabled=false                                                                          
    kwin4_effect_dimscreenEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_fadeEnabled=true                                                                                  
    kwin4_effect_fadedesktopEnabled=false                                                                          
    kwin4_effect_fallapartEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_flipswitchEnabled=false                                                                           
    kwin4_effect_glideEnabled=false                                                                                
    kwin4_effect_highlightwindowEnabled=true                                                                       
    kwin4_effect_invertEnabled=false                                                                               
    kwin4_effect_kscreenEnabled=true                                                                               
    kwin4_effect_loginEnabled=true                                                                                 
    kwin4_effect_logoutEnabled=true                                                                                
    kwin4_effect_lookingglassEnabled=false                                                                         
    kwin4_effect_magiclampEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_magnifierEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_maximizeEnabled=true                                                                              
    kwin4_effect_minimizeanimationEnabled=true                                                                     
    kwin4_effect_mouseclickEnabled=false                                                                           
    kwin4_effect_mousemarkEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_presentwindowsEnabled=true                                                                        
    kwin4_effect_resizeEnabled=false                                                                               
    kwin4_effect_scaleinEnabled=false                                                                              
    kwin4_effect_screenedgeEnabled=true                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_screenshotEnabled=true                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_sheetEnabled=false                                                                                
    kwin4_effect_showfpsEnabled=false                                                                              
    kwin4_effect_showpaintEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_slideEnabled=true                                                                                 
    kwin4_effect_slidebackEnabled=false                                                                            
    kwin4_effect_slidingpopupsEnabled=true                                                                         
    kwin4_effect_snaphelperEnabled=false                                                                           
    kwin4_effect_startupfeedbackEnabled=true                                                                       
    kwin4_effect_taskbarthumbnailEnabled=true                                                                      
    kwin4_effect_thumbnailasideEnabled=false                                                                       
    kwin4_effect_trackmouseEnabled=false
    kwin4_effect_translucencyEnabled=true
    kwin4_effect_windowgeometryEnabled=false
    kwin4_effect_wobblywindowsEnabled=false
    kwin4_effect_zoomEnabled=true
    
    [Script-desktopchangeosd]
    PopupHideDelay=1000
    TextOnly=false
    
    [Windows]
    RollOverDesktops=true
    
  5. Then I ran through the entire upgrade test script
  6. After the reboot, attempted to open Dolphin - slow again. Same error messages

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    Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QDBusObjectPath)
    Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QDBusObjectPath)
    dolphin(5769) KXMLGUI::ActionList::plug: Index  19  is not within range (0 -  11
    dolphin(5769)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." 
    But, I did note that there was some 30 seconds after the KXMLGUI message before the last message came out and Dolphin didn't appear until that last message was displayed - just in case it's significant.
  7. Renamed the kwinrc file to kwinrc.bak and rebooted
  8. After the reboot, started Dolphin and it started right up - no problems.
  9. Used the System Session editor to restore my KDE settings, reboot, Dolphin starts as it should.
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby zerozero » 11 Apr 2014 02:42

stelios wrote:
Schoelje wrote:I've been working for the past two days to solve some very annoying bugs in UM.
I think I did it!

Several changes:
  • dist-upgrade (or upgrade for BE/BO) is now used to extrapolate the list with upgradable packages.
  • Most user choices are now done by UM. UM uses the default selection when possible (as if the user hits the ENTER key). UM waits 5 seconds before continuing. The only thing that needs to be done manually by the user are the debconf choice menus.
The info page (see the OP frame) has been adapted accordingly.

Tomorrow I'll be away to help a friend with his computer (going from XP to XK), but I'll check back in the weekend.
I just installed the new UM. The main window now tells me correctly that there are no new updates, but the icon tells me that there are updates available.
the same but looking closer the UM main window hints that there are packages available to update (just not visible):
this is replicable in a system with standard solydxk testing repos and no preferences.

also there's an output at the end (i saw it also in Scott's and Raven's latest's tests) with upgrade
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it's not problematic as far as the D-U goes because just before or after it also runs a standard D-U but it's an odd output nonetheless.
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 11 Apr 2014 05:05

stelios wrote:I just installed the new UM. The main window now tells me correctly that there are no new updates, but the icon tells me that there are updates available.
Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about that. The tray icon runs as user, not as root, so it can't periodically check the output of dist-upgrade, but uses apt-show-versions. Most users won't know the difference, though.


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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby fleabus » 12 Apr 2014 01:22

Spent this afternoon and evening putting together a SolydX32 testing box from the antique hall of fame. It's a 2004 Dell Dimension XPS Gen2 with a 3.2ghz Northwood P4/HT, 2 gigs ram, SB Audigy2, and last but not least, that UltraFamous card known the world over as "Quier's Bane" on the Nvidia walk of fame -- the 7600GT/512. :lol:

Hmmm. Or was that "Scott's Nemesis"? :D Anyway, it sure doesn't seem to like it's allotted driver, the 304xx, rather I think it much prefers Nouveau. So far.

Triple boots XP, SolidX32 PAE, and SolydX32 i486. They are updated and ready for the test UP, hope to get to that tomorrow afternoon.

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fleabus@xps-gen2:~$ inxi -Fzxxx
System:    Host: xps-gen2 Kernel: 3.11-2-686-pae i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 (Gtk 2.24.18) info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm Distro: SolydXK 1 testing
Machine:   System: Dell product: Dimension XPS Gen 2 Chassis: type: 6
           Mobo: Dell model: 0U2424 Bios: Dell version: A06 date: 09/27/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (pae sse sse2) bmips: 6384.12 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 3192.060 MHz 2: 3192.060 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:02e0 
           X.Org: 1.14.5 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV4B GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.2.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card: Creative Labs SB Audigy driver: snd_emu10k1 port: df00 bus-ID: 02:02.0 chip-ID: 1102:0004 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.11-2-686-pae
Network:   Card: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller 
           driver: e1000 ver: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: df40 bus-ID: 02:0c.0 chip-ID: 8086:100e
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 100.3GB (4.1% used)
           1: id: /dev/sda model: Maxtor_6L100P0 size: 100.3GB serial: L20482TH 
Partition: ID: / size: 20G used: 3.9G (22%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 6.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: No active sensors found. Have you configured your sensors yet? mobo: N/A gpu: 57.0 
Info:      Processes: 142 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 159.6/2023.8MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 alt: 4.6/4.7 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.45 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 1.9.17 
fleabus@xps-gen2:~$ 
The only benefit I'm getting from the PAE kernel is hyperthreading as the machine only has the 2 gigs ram -- but it does seem a bit snappier with that kernel.

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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby ScottQuier » 12 Apr 2014 01:36

I'm not sure I like the idea of being remembered for the problems I was having with a video card. :lol:

As for the driver, I found the only way I could get it installed was to follow steps 4 and 6 I posted here --> http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php? ... 908#p27578
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Re: UP - 01/04/2014 [TESTING]

Postby fleabus » 12 Apr 2014 01:50

Just kidding... Actually the driver installed fine with

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# apt-get install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver nvidia-xconfig
-- It's just that the card didn't seem to like it much, and was much snappier without it and so I removed it -- memory usage jumped to 623m with the 304xx! settled back to around 515m after a little uptime, half an hour or so. (Running at 160m with Nouveau!) Probably a combination of the ancient chipset/card/driver combination, could be one of those weird hardware combinations where the chipset and the card glare at each other from opposite corners of the room.. :lol: and can be cranky to solve, if at all. We shall see, and I'll go over all your 7600 posts...

Edit: maybe it wants v304.{insert specific point revision} researching getting hands on various installable point releases without having to compile. May take more time than we have.

Edit1: I remember problems in the Win days with Nvidia point releases. One would work fine, another cause the machine to become drunk and slow and unresponsive. Different strokes for different card/MB chipset combos...


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