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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby jsalpha2 » 22 Apr 2014 00:57

I always make my live USBs from windows, because thats what a windows user would bo if they wanted to try SolydXK.
I cannot do anything about that, except for creating a custom application to put SolydXK on USB.
I am writing from a liveUSB made with Unetbootin and the menu was a little confusing. I also use Rufus, and it skipped the menu and went strait to the desktop. From what I've heard the people at Unetbootin are very helpful and they would help with problems. (They are also a small 2 man team, I think) They could also put SolydXK on the list of distros that could be downloaded from within the app.

Here is one custom Unetbootin made for ZevenOS Neptune. http://www.zevenos.com/download/zevenos-neptune-2

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 22 Apr 2014 07:05

I've tried that before, but unfortunately never got a response.
I'm a bit occupied at the moment, and I will be for quite some time. So, if anyone would like to contact the Unetbootin team with this issue, I'd really appreciate it.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby jsalpha2 » 22 Apr 2014 11:39

Thanks Schoelje, I know your busy. I made a contact attempt, hope to get a response this time. I am always a little hesitant to act on my own, without permission.

Are these ISOs still testing, or are they final? Will attempt a little promotion once I know for sure.

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 22 Apr 2014 11:58

jsalpha2 wrote:Thanks Schoelje, I know your busy. I made a contact attempt, hope to get a response this time. I am always a little hesitant to act on my own, without permission.

Are these ISOs still testing, or are they final? Will attempt a little promotion once I know for sure.
Thanks.
No, the ISOs are in testing and there are several technical issues I need to resolve first.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 22 Apr 2014 17:17

After two days of development I still have these issues left:

Test UM on SolydK64 with Nvidia drivers installed, and do the same for an EFI system.
This has no priority. It's unrelated to the good functioning of the ISO and I can update UM at a later date.

Start icon after install of SolydX32 has changed to Xfce icon.
All favorites in Whiskermenu has been overwritten on SolydX32.
> /etc/skel/.config/xfce4/panel/whiskermenu-9.rc is correct.
> /home/solydxk/.config/xfce4/panel/whiskermenu-9.rc has been totally adapted.
I suspect that localizing SolydX32 causes these issues.

UM does not start in SolydX32

Check localization in KDM.

and I've only been working on SolydX32 :shock:


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 23 Apr 2014 05:58

UM crashing on SolydXK has to do with this:

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** (updatemanager.py:4725): WARNING **: Could not open X display
No protocol specified
error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
Unable to init server
No protocol specified
error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
Unable to init server
If I open a terminal, login as su, cd to /usr/lib/solydxk/updatemanager, and run

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python3 updatemanager.py
UM starts without a problem.

If anyone has an idea how to solve this one, please let me know.

[EDIT]
Perhaps this is the bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=724576

[EDIT2]
If I replace gksu with gksudo in /usr/bin/updatemanager, the updatemanager runs fine.
I'll check that out.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby zerozero » 23 Apr 2014 10:38

doesn't work here :(

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k64 updatemanager # python3 updatemanager.py
No protocol specified

** (updatemanager.py:4408): WARNING **: Could not open X display
No protocol specified
error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
Unable to init server
No protocol specified
error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
Unable to init server
Repo URL = http://packages.solydxk.com/umfiles/prd
Command to execute: ps -ef | grep updatemanager.py

(updatemanager.py:4408): Gtk-CRITICAL **: _gtk_style_cascade_get_for_screen: assertion 'GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed

(updatemanager.py:4408): Gtk-CRITICAL **: _gtk_style_provider_private_lookup: assertion 'GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIVATE (provider)' fa
[and on and on]
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby zerozero » 23 Apr 2014 10:44

replacing gksu with gksudo does
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 23 Apr 2014 10:56

I have no idea why gksu is giving that error :?

I'll have some time later this evening, and hope to build new ISOs.
It'll take about 7 hours before all are uploaded.
I'll post here when I'm done.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby drc » 23 Apr 2014 15:16

Schoelje wrote:I have no idea why gksu is giving that error :?
In a another distro that I dabble in (Salix OS), this sort of problem came up in the last upgrade development cycle. Not sure if it's really any help but here's what they had to say about it: http://salixos.blogspot.com/2013/11/the ... oblem.html .

Just a note to maybe help spur your thinking process :mrgreen:

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 23 Apr 2014 16:44

Aha, they chose to write their own gksu (gnsu).
Luckily we don't have to go that far. As far as I can see, there are just a few applications that start with gksu, but should use gksudo.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby drc » 23 Apr 2014 16:52

The main object of the post was really the first paragraph (su cannot be executed as a subprocess [now]) rather than the result (I always wanted to name something with a recursive acronym) Didn't want you to waste time/enegy/beer on trying to solve a problem that had no real internal solution.

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 24 Apr 2014 18:29

I'm having big issues with gksu/gksudo.
All our managers applications need adapting and need to be tested.
This is going to take quite some time, I'm afraid.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Zill » 24 Apr 2014 22:29

Schoelje wrote:I'm having big issues with gksu/gksudo...
I may be way off base here but could it be that gksu-properties is configured incorrectly? This allows the authentication to be set to either su or sudo. With graphical apps these generally require sudo to be selected, rather than su.

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 25 Apr 2014 05:18

Zill wrote:
Schoelje wrote:I'm having big issues with gksu/gksudo...
I may be way off base here but could it be that gksu-properties is configured incorrectly? This allows the authentication to be set to either su or sudo. With graphical apps these generally require sudo to be selected, rather than su.
That wouldn't be the standard configuration for gksu then, wouldn't it? Other applications could get into trouble by changing that. Wouldn't that also make gksu exactly the same as gksudo?
I also had the problem that UM needed su rather than sudo to write certain files. Before the UP that was exactly how it worked, but now I had to use sudo (gksudo) to start UM, and to write to certain files. Unfortunately, starting with gksudo doesn't pass its privileges to underlying (threaded) processes, and I had to create a directory with writing privileges for everybody, and adapt the code for that. I'll be testing that today, and I'll have to test all our other managers as well (ddm, debian-plymouth-manager, sambashare, usermanager).


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Zill » 25 Apr 2014 10:07

Schoelje wrote:That wouldn't be the standard configuration for gksu then, wouldn't it? Other applications could get into trouble by changing that. Wouldn't that also make gksu exactly the same as gksudo?...
IMHO there are some subtle differences between the way gksu and gksudo operate, even though gksudo appears to be simply a symlink to gksu. Something to do with environment variables I believe.

From this, I generally use gksudo by default and this seems to work for me. I have also read that gksu is now deprecated and so it might be desirable to only use gksudo with SolydXK and tweak any code accordingly.

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 25 Apr 2014 10:56

Zill wrote:I have also read that gksu is now deprecated and so it might be desirable to only use gksudo with SolydXK and tweak any code accordingly.
Working on that...


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby grizzler » 25 Apr 2014 19:01

This gksu/gksudo mess may get worse. I did a web search and found a lot about gksu and gksudo being deprecated (both of them are, by the way, not just gksu) in favour of pkexec. It looks like the entire gksu package may eventually be dropped. No idea about a time frame, though. For the time being, gksudo should continue to work.

In my experience with SolydX, gksu still works as well. I wonder if the problems on SolydK are because gksu wasn't created with KDE in mind in the first place.
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Zill » 25 Apr 2014 19:46

grizzler wrote:... I wonder if the problems on SolydK are because gksu wasn't created with KDE in mind in the first place.
I would not expect this to be the case as kdesudo should be used when running KDE rather than gksudo (or gksu).

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

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