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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Zill » 26 Apr 2014 11:27

GNUday wrote:...That's a very good point, gksudo for SolydX and kdesudo for SolydK, makes a lot of sense.
I quite agree! Sorry if my earlier post was confusing but, as I do not run a KDE system, I wasn't aware that SolydK may also currently be using gksudo or gksu. You have summarised exactly what I was trying to say. ;)

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby zerozero » 26 Apr 2014 11:35

but the question here is that the SolydXK app involved (UM, ddm, debian-plymouth-manager, sambashare, usermanager) are using gksu regardless of the DE they are installed in.
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 26 Apr 2014 11:51

That behavior will be changed in the next versions of these applications, and will need thorough testing ;)
Building new ISOs right now. I'll keep you posted.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Zill » 26 Apr 2014 11:55

zerozero: I haven't used KDE for some years now so could well be wrong but my understanding is that DE is important when launching graphical applications as root. Maybe this is just because gksu/gksudo are themselves GTK applications and kdesu/kdesudo are (probably!) QT applications and so simply look better on the appropriate DE. Or it may be because the code itself integrates better with the appropriate GTK or KDE environment.

All I can say is that I have always used kdesudo/gksudo on the appropriate systems and have not experienced any problems. I have not tried to "mix and match" and remain to be convinced that this is desirable.

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Zill » 27 Apr 2014 12:08

GNUday wrote:...BTW, I love what you did with the anti-virus, that's verrrrrrry cool! Much better than the usual Clamtk GUI...
Sorry, this is slightly OT but what on earth does "anti-virus" have to do with a Linux distro? There are no Linux viruses "in the wild" and so anti-virus software is about as much use as elephant powder!

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 27 Apr 2014 12:46

Zill wrote:
GNUday wrote:...BTW, I love what you did with the anti-virus, that's verrrrrrry cool! Much better than the usual Clamtk GUI...
Sorry, this is slightly OT but what on earth does "anti-virus" have to do with a Linux distro? There are no Linux viruses "in the wild" and so anti-virus software is about as much use as elephant powder!
That is very OT. If you consider this worth discussing, please open another topic.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 27 Apr 2014 12:50

I've just uploaded the new ISOs:
http://downloads.solydxk.nl/dev/

There were many, many changes. Most of them under the hood. So, you shouldn't see many differences with the previous ISOs.

Please, use the testing sheet, and attach that to your post.
It's hard for me to sift through all the comments in the posts and check what is relevant for me.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby GNUday » 27 Apr 2014 18:08

Zill wrote:
GNUday wrote:...BTW, I love what you did with the anti-virus, that's verrrrrrry cool! Much better than the usual Clamtk GUI...
Sorry, this is slightly OT but what on earth does "anti-virus" have to do with a Linux distro? There are no Linux viruses "in the wild" and so anti-virus software is about as much use as elephant powder!
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 27 Apr 2014 18:24

Please, there is no need for sarcasm.

To get this matter away from what is really important in this topic, testing the ISOs, I'll explain my reasoning for adding clam.
This is part of the business statement of SolydXK:
...SolydXK is an open source alternative for small businesses, non-profit organizations and home users.
Although the chance of infection is small when you're running Linux, you can pass on viruses to your clients, customers, suppliers, etc. If SolydXK pretends to be a professional distribution, we cannot think just about ourselves. We need to consider the rest world as well. Not doing so, would potentially jeopardize business relationships, which in turn would be bad for the continuity of SolydXK.

Now I hope that we can let this matter rest, and continue with ISO testing.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby GNUday » 28 Apr 2014 03:26

I know you said use the sheet but I had to show you this. In a live session (2014-4-27 SolydX dev, 'Raid Enabled') I installed dmeventd (brings in liblvm2cmd2.02), udevil (brings in pmount), mdadm, afuse, raidutils (brings in dpt-i2o-raidutils), now I'm not exactly sure which one worked but gparted 'sees' the Raid while Thunar and Disks do not. I will be installing a spare HDD to fully test this and what is on the sheet. I chose to burn the test ISO to a DVD because this is what an average user (no unetbootin) would most likely do, a 'standard' situation, DVD + single HDD install.

FYI, Synaptic would not open from the Whisker menu, I copied the launcher to the desktop and edited it, I put sudo in front of synaptic in the command field, saved the launcher, then the desktop launcher worked fine.
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 28 Apr 2014 05:17

Interesting, if you can make it to work and narrow the needed packages down. I might be able to add them to the ISOs.


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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby patzy » 28 Apr 2014 09:33

I've just installed the latest .ISO on a freshly formatted HDD.
Attached are my results.
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Main trouble with plymouth (as usual). Can it please be replaced as the default when using the live DVD?

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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby GNUday » 28 Apr 2014 11:31

Schoelje wrote:Interesting, if you can make it to work and narrow the needed packages down. I might be able to add them to the ISOs.
The Raid thing will take some time (time is at a premium right now for me) and research, you have to get your ISO out so don't wait for my input on that, but hopefully by the end of today (my time), I'll have the 'normal' test done. :?
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby grizzler » 28 Apr 2014 16:55

Results for SolydK32. In an archive because it includes a grub.cfg (see the ods for the reason why) and this has an extension which isn't allowed.
No more time this evening. Will have a go at SolydX32 tomorrow.

Edit: drat - forgot to mention the Flash plugin is outdated. Current version is 11.2.202.350, not 346.

Edit 2: unbelievable. Another one today. We're now at 11.2.202.356...
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Provia » 29 Apr 2014 06:31

Hi,

maybe it's useless but i upload my testing results.
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby grizzler » 29 Apr 2014 13:02

Here's the SolydX32 sheet, also in an archive because of some extra files. What happened when I let the update manager process an update was... interesting.
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby zerozero » 01 May 2014 01:45

this doesn't fit in the test-sheet but anyways
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1- there's 2 kernels (3.11 being local) in the iso

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solydxk@solydxk ~ $ aptitude search linux-image linux-headers | grep ^i
i   linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64      - Header files for Linux 3.13-1-amd64       
i   linux-headers-3.13-1-common     - Common header files for Linux 3.13-1      
i   linux-headers-amd64             - Header files for Linux amd64 configuration
ip  linux-image-3.11-2-amd64        - Linux 3.11 for 64-bit PCs                 
i   linux-image-3.13-1-amd64        - Linux 3.13 for 64-bit PCs                 
i   linux-image-amd64               - Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)       
2- the installer crashed twice, 3rd time it completed but with this error

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--> Copying files
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/albumfolder-new.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/albumfolder-new.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/albumfolder-properties.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/albumfolder-properties.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/albumfolder-user-trash.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/albumfolder-user-trash.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/antivignetting.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/antivignetting.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/autocorrection.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/autocorrection.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/blurfx.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/blurfx.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/blurimage.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/blurimage.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/bordertool.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/bordertool.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
Error copying /source/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/bwtonal.png to /target/usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/icons/hicolor/128x128/actions/bwtonal.png: [Errno 5] Input/output error
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Re: ISO testing - 201404

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 01 May 2014 06:15

The two kernels, I can do something about.
An I/O error, is a bad thing.
I hope you tested in a VM. If so, you can try with a newly created VM to see if that works.
If not, you should do an fsck on your partition.

Today, I have a whole day to work on the ISOs. I'm not going to change much, just the obvious things.
I haven't heard much about the new mesa, FF, and TB. So, I suppose that's okay.

After the next UP I want to drop syslinux as ISO boot for BIOS system, and let Grub handle the boot, just as it now is for EFI systems. I don't know if that's possible, but I did it for the multi-usb. There shouldn't be that much difference. Looking for more consistency and easier maintenance here.


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