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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby grizzler » 01 Jul 2016 09:38

Yup. That's done it. Thanks.
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 03 Jul 2016 08:53

I just installed SolydK EE on metal.

Booting from USB (I used the usb-creator) went without a problem.

Installing was a bit of a pain because of the known Gtk issues:
Live Installer
  • No scrollbars
  • No visible text boxes
  • Text selection is not visible
  • No progress bar
EE after installation
  • Home and Trash icons on the desktop should not be there.
  • Firefox not default browser
  • Dolphin misses default menu buttons (show hidden files/dirs)
  • Cannot reach samba network (firewall enabled?)
  • ufw has no GUI (kcm-ufw does not show in System Settings).
I was looking for the best way to hide the desktop toolbox but haven't found one yet. I know I have to set this:
showToolbox=false

I'll test more if you want but not today: family day.


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby palimmo » 03 Jul 2016 09:23

Could it be possible to introduce in the installer an additional option, in which the user is asked if she/he wants to edit fstab and automount additional partitions?
Every time I install linux (in general), first thing I do is to edit fstab in order to have the automount of my big fat partition where I have all my data.
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 03 Jul 2016 11:44

palimmo wrote:Could it be possible to introduce in the installer an additional option, in which the user is asked if she/he wants to edit fstab and automount additional partitions?
Every time I install linux (in general), first thing I do is to edit fstab in order to have the automount of my big fat partition where I have all my data.
;)
That was implemented in the last version and announced when the latest ISOs were announced: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6425
You can now use custom mount points in the Live Installer. Double click on a partition to select a pre-defined mount point or write your custom mount point.


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby palimmo » 03 Jul 2016 15:19

Schoelje wrote:
palimmo wrote:Could it be possible to introduce in the installer an additional option, in which the user is asked if she/he wants to edit fstab and automount additional partitions?
Every time I install linux (in general), first thing I do is to edit fstab in order to have the automount of my big fat partition where I have all my data.
;)
That was implemented in the last version and announced when the latest ISOs were announced: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6425
You can now use custom mount points in the Live Installer. Double click on a partition to select a pre-defined mount point or write your custom mount point.
Oh, so did you mean that? excellent! ;)
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby grizzler » 03 Jul 2016 17:32

Schoelje wrote:Installing was a bit of a pain because of the known Gtk issues:
Yes, that's a nasty mess. I always wonder what asinine changes the GTK developers will come up with next. They certainly haven't disappointed this time... :evil:
  • Home and Trash icons on the desktop should not be there.
  • Firefox not default browser
  • Dolphin misses default menu buttons (show hidden files/dirs)
  • Cannot reach samba network (firewall enabled?)
  • ufw has no GUI (kcm-ufw does not show in System Settings).
I'm not seeing the Home and Trash icons here and Dolphin isn't missing anything either. Weird.
Don't know (yet) why firefox isn't listed or why kcm-ufw doesn't show. I've wasted most of today's available time on samba...

The samba thing does seem to be firewall related. Apparently the broadcast message to identify the available servers doesn't come through (you can still connect if you enter the IP address manually). The ufw allow CIFS setting is supposed to take care of that. No idea why it doesn't. I've tried several older solutions mentioned on the web, but nothing seems to be recent enough to work.
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 03 Jul 2016 17:50

I'll do a new install just to be sure.


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby grizzler » 03 Jul 2016 19:33

Regarding kcm-ufw, I found this: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=225&t=130344

I think that indicates the current version (which is in the SolydXK repo, not Debian's) will no longer work.

I cannot find a way around the samba problem. It's definitely the firewall blocking things, completely ignoring the CIFS app setting provided (the alternative 'Samba' doesn't work either, which isn't surprising as it does the same thing). If this is an ufw bug, it's odd nobody has reported it yet, as the current version in testing has been there since mid May.
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 04 Jul 2016 20:52

I reinstalled SolydK64 EE and found out that I hadn't formatted the home partition. The desktop icons and missing dolphin buttons was caused by the already existing (SolydX) home configuration. So, my bad.

If we cannot use kcm-ufw wouldn't it be better to use gufw like we do in SolydX?

I hope I find some time this week to check the samba issue but I cannot promise anything.


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 17 Jul 2016 08:33

Shall I release the ISOs in http://downloads.solydxk.nl/ce/testing/ ?


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 17 Jul 2016 11:16

I have created an updated SolydK64 EE where I removed kcm-ufw and installed gufw.

solydxk-softwaremanager is removed during the ISO build because python-webkit is not available anymore but it seems that KDE5 has its own software manager now.

The samba issue can be resolved by running the following rules:

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ufw allow proto tcp to any port 135,139,445
ufw allow proto tcp from any port 135,139,445
ufw allow proto udp to any port 137,138
ufw allow proto udp from any port 137,138
You can reset the firewall rules and cleanup the ufw directories before adding any new rules with:

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ufw --force reset
rm /etc/ufw/*.rules.*
rm /lib/ufw/*.rules.*
I'll implement this in the constructor after testing it.

[Edit]
Testing cleanup.sh with:

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echo "> Setup the firewall"
ufw --force reset
rm /etc/ufw/*.rules.*
rm /lib/ufw/*.rules.*
ufw default deny incoming
ufw default allow outgoing
ufw allow proto tcp to any port 135,139,445
ufw allow proto tcp from any port 135,139,445
ufw allow proto udp to any port 137,138
ufw allow proto udp from any port 137,138
ufw enable


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 17 Jul 2016 12:34

Tested SolydX64, SolydK64 and SolydK64 EE: Samba works OOTB!


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby kurotsugi » 17 Jul 2016 16:15

that...or replace gufw with firewalld. it's highly integrated with network manager and have several nice feature compared to gufw. one of them allow me to select the place where my system connected and the firewall will automatically choose the best firewall/network setting.

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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby grizzler » 17 Jul 2016 16:23

Schoelje wrote:Shall I release the ISOs in http://downloads.solydxk.nl/ce/testing/ ?
Maybe wait a couple of days? I'll be back home Wednesday or Thursday (writing this through Tor, so the IP-address may look weird...). I'll see if it makes sense to build a new set first (probably does).

W.r.t. pywebkitgtk, I put that in one of the build tools' ignore lists a while back. It's #9 in the "Issues" thread. I seem to remember the bug report indicated they did plan to fix it before Stretch goes stable, so...
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 17 Jul 2016 16:39

Okay, we'll take a look at it when you're back.

In the mean time I tried to move the toolbox (cashew) to the top right corner by creating this file:

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/usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/updates/desktoptoolbox_topright.js
with contents:

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for (var i in desktops()) {
    var desktop = desktops()[i];

    for (var j in desktop.widgetIds) {
	var widget = desktop.widgetById(desktop.widgetIds[j]);

	if (widget.type == "org.kde.desktoptoolbox") {
	    widget.currentConfigGroup = ["General"];
	    widget.writeConfig("ToolBoxButtonState", topright);
	}
    }
}
Unfortunately, that didn't work.

This page helped a bit but there was no example code to verify:
https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Adm ... pScripting


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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby grizzler » 20 Jul 2016 19:36

The firewall issue was caused by forgetting the 'other direction'. We had:

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ufw allow CIFS
which appears to be equivalent to:

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ufw allow to any app CIFS
Adding:

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ufw allow from any app CIFS
seems to fix things as well.

How about kurotsugi's suggestion? I'm not familiar with firewalld, but I don't use gufw either.
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby balloon » 21 Jul 2016 04:48

About toolbox of Plasma 5,
whether this has been questioned that overlaps with the desktop icon in that position has changed (top left corner)?

I'm sure this change in some of the distributions, include Debian testing, Fedora 24 and Mageia 6 dev...
This should not be a SolydK EE-specific issues, Probably the intentional change of Plasma 5.
(By the way, Plasma 5.7 is going to change the icon and corner)
It had occurred in just this month of the beginning. (SolydXK EE test build that had been before and after)
The act of moving the toolbar, it may cause problems to the difference between the Plasma 5 using other distributions.
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby grizzler » 21 Jul 2016 20:13

Upload in progress. Full set (6 ISOs). Completely untested (see below).

Changes:
- package set updated [all ISOs]
- firewall setting fixed (allow to/from any app CIFS) [all ISOs]
- kcm-ufw replaced with gufw [SolydK EEs]

I haven't replaced gufw with firewalld (yet), as I don't want to do that without feedback from Arjen and I don't think I'll have another opportunity to create a new set of ISOs before the end of August (I wasn't joking about that the other day). I'll be out of town intermittently the coming weeks and although I may occasionally check the forums from home (or elsewhere) in that period, that's about all I'll have time for.
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Re: New ISOs in ce/testing

Postby kurotsugi » 21 Jul 2016 22:19

firewalld can wait much much later. we can put it on the bottom of the list. things are much different compared to ufw. there are zones, services, rich rules, new things to be learned to use firewalld effectively. we'll also need user feedback for this one.

I suggested firewalld because it's new tech and simpler for user side (simply choose the zone, done). however :
1. it's redhat's
2. it's deeply tied with systemd and other redhat's
3. it's vastly different with ufw. new learning curve. some user hate it.

it's not everyone's favourite tool. ufw is still dominant in most distro except redhat derived ones :3


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