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Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby palimmo » 01 Feb 2017 23:00

grizzler wrote:
Schoelje wrote:I'm also separating the solydx/k-info packages to prepare for the time when we have both jessie and stretch based ISOs. In testing I now have these packages to test:
  • solydx/k-info (transitional package)
  • solydx/kee-info (transitional package)
  • solydx/k-info-8/9
  • solydxk-system (will remove solydx/k(ee)-info package when the solydx/k-info-8/9 packages have been installed)
The solydx/k-system-adjustments packages have a Depends: solydx/k-system-adjustments-8. However, currently the system-adjustments packages are the same on jessie and stretch systems. So I expect the -8 package to be pulled in on both (haven't had time to actually test this yet...).
Today:

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Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 solydk-system-adjustments : Depends: solydk-system-adjustments-8 but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby palimmo » 01 Feb 2017 23:41

palimmo wrote:
grizzler wrote:
Schoelje wrote:I'm also separating the solydx/k-info packages to prepare for the time when we have both jessie and stretch based ISOs. In testing I now have these packages to test:
  • solydx/k-info (transitional package)
  • solydx/kee-info (transitional package)
  • solydx/k-info-8/9
  • solydxk-system (will remove solydx/k(ee)-info package when the solydx/k-info-8/9 packages have been installed)
The solydx/k-system-adjustments packages have a Depends: solydx/k-system-adjustments-8. However, currently the system-adjustments packages are the same on jessie and stretch systems. So I expect the -8 package to be pulled in on both (haven't had time to actually test this yet...).
Today on my machine (SolydK64 standard, not EE):

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Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 solydk-system-adjustments : Depends: solydk-system-adjustments-8 but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 02 Feb 2017 06:24

palimmo wrote:Today:

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Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 solydk-system-adjustments : Depends: solydk-system-adjustments-8 but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
Thanks, I've updated the package. Just run:

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apt update
apt -f install


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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby palimmo » 03 Feb 2017 16:17

Schoelje wrote:
palimmo wrote:I ran the command and reboot.
Apparently most of the theme settings are gone now...
If you're on EE, and you most probably are, you need to install solydk-system-adjustments-9 (solydx-system-adjustments-9 for SolydX).
No. As I posted before I am on SolydK standard. Apparently we are "affected" as well... :|
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby grizzler » 03 Feb 2017 17:19

Maybe you have the SolydXK testing component in your sources.list? I.e.

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deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import testing
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deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby palimmo » 03 Feb 2017 19:22

grizzler wrote:Maybe you have the SolydXK testing component in your sources.list? I.e.

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deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import testing
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deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import
this is my sources.list. Testing is there! :( Just remove it, upgrade the cache and update?

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deb http://repository.solydxk.com/ solydxk main upstream import testing  
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free 
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free 
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free 
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free 
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby palimmo » 03 Feb 2017 19:26

Schoelje wrote:But still...I don't see any theme changes on my main system nor a fresh install of SolydK in VB.

@palimmo
Please check that you have solydk-system-adjustments-8, solydk-info-8 and solydxk-system installed or reinstall them for good measure.
all the 3 are installed. synaptic doesn't give the the choice to reinstall them (the menu entry is gray) .
can I remove and immediately (re)install them?
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 03 Feb 2017 19:30

palimmo wrote:all the 3 are installed. synaptic doesn't give the the choice to reinstall them (the menu entry is gray) .
can I remove and immediately (re)install them?
Easier by command:

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apt update
apt install --reinstall solydk-system-adjustments-8 solydk-info-8 solydxk-system


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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby palimmo » 03 Feb 2017 19:50

Schoelje wrote:
palimmo wrote:all the 3 are installed. synaptic doesn't give the the choice to reinstall them (the menu entry is gray) .
can I remove and immediately (re)install them?
Easier by command:

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apt update
apt install --reinstall solydk-system-adjustments-8 solydk-info-8 solydxk-system

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~ $ sudo apt install --reinstall solydk-system-adjustments-8 solydk-info-8 solydxk-system
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reinstallation of solydxk-system is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of solydk-info-8 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of solydk-system-adjustments-8 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
:o Are they not available in the repository?
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby grizzler » 03 Feb 2017 20:34

Because the testing component was there, you inadvertently moved your system to a newer, experimental version of the packages. I suppose you could try to go back to the previous versions by reinstalling the packages without the -8 and specifying the correct version numbers after an equals sign. As you probably removed the testing component, you should be able to determine the right version numbers using apt policy. However, you would also have to remove the packages with the -8 and to be honest, I think doing this would create an even bigger mess.

Alternatively, reinstall the newer packages. To do that you do need the testing component. Those newer versions weren't supposed to go out to the users yet, so they aren't available anywhere else.

Edit
As all of this has nothing to do with ISO maintenance or build issues, I think I'll move it to a separate thread...
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby palimmo » 03 Feb 2017 20:37

grizzler wrote:Because the testing component was there, you inadvertently moved your system to a newer, experimental version of the packages. I suppose you could try to go back to the previous versions by reinstalling the packages without the -8 and specifying the correct version numbers after an equals sign. As you probably removed the testing component, you should be able to determine the right version numbers using apt policy. However, you would also have to remove the packages with the -8 and to be honest, I think doing this would create an even bigger mess.

Alternatively, reinstall the newer packages. To do that you do need the testing component. Those newer versions weren't supposed to go out to the users yet, so they aren't available anywhere else.
The 2 packages are still present and I have not removed them yet.
Should I keep the testing component in my sources.list (to get in the future new updates) or would it be better to keep it out?
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby grizzler » 03 Feb 2017 20:39

Better remove it. Once they're finalised, the packages will appear in one of the other components.
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Re: Community ISO maintenance and build issues

Postby palimmo » 03 Feb 2017 20:44

grizzler wrote:Better remove it. Once they're finalised, the packages will appear in one of the other components.
ok, thanks.
regarding the theme, I suppose I have to play a little bit with the settings to get back the old configuration, right? :D
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Re: Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby grizzler » 03 Feb 2017 20:54

Did you reinstall the packages before you removed the testing component? And that didn't fix the theme?

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I split this off to its own thread. Feel free to change the topic/subject if you want.
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Re: Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby palimmo » 03 Feb 2017 21:05

grizzler wrote:Did you reinstall the packages before you removed the testing component? And that didn't fix the theme?

P.S.
I split this off to its own thread. Feel free to change the topic/subject if you want.
No, it didn't. But don't worry. I'll find a solution ;)
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Re: Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby ilu » 04 Feb 2017 16:48

Should those of us that have "testing" in their repos, remove it now to avoid future problems? Or is it too late now?

On the last update only my desktop icons got into disarray - easily fixed - but since this is my main system I wouldn't want to encounter serious problems. More importantly I'm not planning to migrate to stretch with this system anytime soon.

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Re: Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 04 Feb 2017 18:02

Well "testing" is called testing for a reason. Things will go wrong and what is going wrong is important to me. I have to make sure everything goes as planned before I migrate those packages to "main". If you don't want to cause problems on your system you shouldn't include "testing" in your sources.list but if you want to help testing I recommend doing that in a VM.


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Re: Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby ilu » 04 Feb 2017 21:11

Of course I do want to test, but on this machine only for jessie. I just need to make sure that I don't end up with (parts of) stretch or anything transitional that's irreversible because this computer can't transit. That's why I'm asking.

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Re: Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby grizzler » 05 Feb 2017 07:09

The -8 packages are meant for jessie. They're supposed to simply replace the non numbered versions and shouldn't cause any disruption. The fact your system's desktop icons got messed up suggests those packages need more work.

Edit
I wonder if the way the replacement is done could be responsible. The -8 packages are pulled in as dependencies of the non numbered versions, which have essentially been 'emptied'. I.e. they're just transitional packages and no longer contain anything specific to SolydXK. This could mean all kinds of items get removed before the installation of the -8 packages puts them back. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that causes issues with icons.
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Re: Newer solydxk packages causing problems

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 05 Feb 2017 07:43

The replacement of packages is done according to Debian's own recommendations: https://wiki.debian.org/RenamingPackage ... _a_Package

The desktop icons shouldn't have been messed up. That's the user environment and cannot be altered by dpkg. I still cannot reproduce that and that's why I'm leaving those packages in testing: they need more testing.

To prepare for the transition I already adapted more than 20 packages. Some had minor changes and others not so minor. It is more likely to have issues with so many changes at the same time.


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