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SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 05 Mar 2013 19:31
by BobHinds
Trying to use SolydX 32 bit as a Live USB. Unfortunately with “wicd" as its network manager, it does not provide support for mobile broadband.

Also, examined the Live USB to see if “wvdial” was installed which would have provided a command line application for mobile broadband access. It was not installed.

This leaves me unable to get Internet access with SolydX.

The best solution would be to replace “wicd” with “NetworkManager” in the Live media, which does have very good support for mobile broadband.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 05 Mar 2013 20:20
by cwwgateway
Welcome to the SolydXK forums :D

I'm sorry to hear about your problem. Unfortunately, I don't think this can be changed without releasing another ISO, and the last one was only released 5 days ago. I can confirm wvdial is installed on SolydK, so if you're willing to try it, then broadband should be working.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 05 Mar 2013 22:05
by Arjen Balfoort
Wicd was chosen by the community to keep SolydX as light as possible.
SolydK does have wvdial and Network Manager installed by default.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 05 Mar 2013 23:07
by 17xeros
Mobile broadband is provided by Blueman in SolydX or LMDE XFCE (and elsewhere).
But need to enable Dhclient in plugins and disable NMsupport plugin.
when connected run the command "sudo dhclient bnep"
I have made a launcher with that command to click after I connect to my mobile phone through bluetooth.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 05 Mar 2013 23:09
by 17xeros
correction
"sudo dhclient bnep0"

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 06 Mar 2013 01:20
by BobHinds
Thank you for the welcome and the replies. My mobile broadband device is a CDMA 3G USB Modem (Novatel MC760) and does not use bluetooth.

I want to use XFCE instead of KDE so I came up with a work around solution and now have mobile broadband internet access using wvdial.

This is what I did to to install wvdial along with its dependencies.

First, used Synaptic to create a download script for the required packages. Here is the contents of that script:

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#!/bin/sh
wget -c http://debian.solydxk.com/production/pool/main/libp/libpcap/libpcap0.8_1.3.0-1_i386.deb
wget -c http://debian.solydxk.com/production/pool/main/w/wvstreams/libwvstreams4.6-base_4.6.1-5_i386.deb
wget -c http://debian.solydxk.com/production/pool/main/w/wvstreams/libwvstreams4.6-extras_4.6.1-5_i386.deb
wget -c http://debian.solydxk.com/production/pool/main/w/wvstreams/libuniconf4.6_4.6.1-5_i386.deb
wget -c http://debian.solydxk.com/production/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.5-5.1+b1_i386.deb
wget -c http://debian.solydxk.com/production/pool/main/w/wvdial/wvdial_1.61-4.1_i386.deb
Ran this script from another installation that does support mobile broadband, storing the deb packages on an USB flash drive.

Got back into a SolydX Live USB session and using sudo, copied the packages from the USB flash drive to /var/cache/apt/archives/.

Brought up Synaptic and installed wvdial.

Using sudo, copied over a "wvdial.conf" file that works with my mobile broadband device to /etc.

With everything now in place, used sudo to execute wvdial from a terminal window which successfully started a mobile broadband connection.

I think as more people start using SolydX, you will find others wanting to have Network Manager with mobile broadband support installed by default. It makes the process of connecting to the Internet very simple.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 06 Mar 2013 06:57
by Arjen Balfoort
Could you please post your suggestion and arguments in this thread: http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewforum.php?f=14
You can reference to this thread, but that's the best place for others to discuss about changes and new features in the distribution.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 21 Mar 2013 12:09
by tuktuk22
i were suprised too that my ppp0 cdma modem can't connected here.. will try the script . thanks

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edited : i end up goes to some wifi place and install network-manager-gnome from synaptic since my USB modem read as fff5 at lsusb and i am to lazy to download usb-modeswitch and all is dependencies from another machine ;)

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 18 Apr 2013 15:12
by JWJones
BobHinds wrote:The best solution would be to replace “wicd” with “NetworkManager” in the Live media, which does have very good support for mobile broadband.
I'm planning on replacing wicd with networkmanager, but haven't done so yet. I have done this with other distros in the past, so it should be a simple matter. I'll report back after I do so. I'm working from an actual installation to hdd, however.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 19 Apr 2013 01:24
by JWJones
Confirmed: I installed NetworkManager, and removed wicd. Logged out, logged back in, and everything works just fine.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 19 Apr 2013 04:35
by greywolf
Wicd developers are not planning mobile broadband support until version 2.0; currently at 1.7.2 here. I think it will be some time before v2.0?! It is clearly an "upstream" issue.

In the meantime, your only choice are these 'manual' workarounds with wvdial, etc. If you are going to run SolydXK from a usb stick, then you just need to get the relevant packages from the archives, carry them on a separate usb stick and install them at the appropriate time. (as the script does).

Personally, I think Wicd is the right choice for network management in the long term and in line with the aims of the X version particularly. It is light years ahead of Network Manager in terms of every function, aside from this one feature, and with much less resource use. However, I also think the next iso could contain both Ceni and Wvdial packages for folk who get caught out with no X but need internet/network access to fix their machine.

I was always taught that you should never have to re-install Linux on a machine to get it back running again. Then again, in my day, servers were never taken down!!

cheers,
greywolf.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 21 Apr 2013 13:08
by OMGLinux
BobHinds wrote:Trying to use SolydX 32 bit as a Live USB. Unfortunately with “wicd" as its network manager, it does not provide support for mobile broadband.
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This leaves me unable to get Internet access with SolydX.
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I had the exact same problem. It sucks not to be able to get online.

Network manager offers such an easy, newbie friendly way to get mobile broadband support and internet access in a few seconds. Please include Network manager in this distro.

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 12 May 2013 19:50
by Gonzalo_VC
JWJones wrote:Confirmed: I installed NetworkManager, and removed wicd. Logged out, logged back in, and everything works just fine.
:?:
When installing NetworkManager, does in install all the other packages the system requires?
I'm having problems trying to connect a (VIVO) 3G USB stick to get internet, too.

Some other forum (for Debian) recommends this:
install:
usb-modeswitch - http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/usb-modeswitch
modemmanager - http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/modemmanager
mobile-broadband-provider-info - http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mobi ... vider-info

instead of pppconfig, install gnome-ppp:

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gnome-ppp

What do you think?

PS: installing Net_Man_ and unistalling wicd dis work, luckily :) The connection is so slow I'm typing from another machine connected with a wire :D (but this is a local issue... 3G here is more like 0,3G)

Re: SolydX does not support Mobile Broadband

Posted: 12 May 2013 20:13
by JWJones
Gonzalo_VC wrote:When installing NetworkManager, does in install all the other packages the system requires?
I'm having problems trying to connect a (VIVO) 3G USB stick to get internet, too.
It will install whatever dependencies are required for NetworkManager, that are not already installed.