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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby kurotsugi » 03 Feb 2014 15:13

I've got a good news. there's a way to install cinnamon without dragging much gnome packages. after add mint's repo,

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends cinnamon 
it should install cinnamon with less gnome packages.

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kurotsugi@kurozv3:~$ sudo aptitude -s install cinnamon
[sudo] password for kurotsugi: 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  apg{a} bluez{a} caribou{a} cinnamon cinnamon-common{a} 
  cinnamon-control-center{a} cinnamon-control-center-data{a} 
  cinnamon-desktop-data{a} cinnamon-session{a} cinnamon-session-common{a} 
  cinnamon-settings-daemon{a} cinnamon-translations{a} cjs{a} 
  evolution-data-server-common{a} gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0{a} 
  gir1.2-atspi-2.0{a} gir1.2-caribou-1.0{a} gir1.2-gconf-2.0{a} 
  gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0{a} gir1.2-gkbd-3.0{a} 
  gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0{a} gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0{a} 
  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0{a} gir1.2-muffin-3.0{a} 
  gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0{a} gir1.2-soup-2.4{a} gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0{a} 
  gir1.2-webkit-3.0{a} gir1.2-xkl-1.0{a} gkbd-capplet{a} gnome-bluetooth{a} 
  gnome-desktop3-data{a} gnome-menus{a} gnome-panel{a} gnome-panel-data{a} 
  libatk-adaptor{a} libcamel-1.2-43{a} libcanberra-gtk0{a} 
  libcanberra-pulse{a} libcaribou-common{a} libcaribou0{a} 
  libcinnamon-control-center1{a} libcinnamon-desktop0{a} libcjs0c{a} 
  libecal-1.2-15{a} libedataserver-1.2-17{a} libgail-common{a} libgail18{a} 
  libgee-0.8-2{a} libgnome-desktop-3-7{a} libgnomekbd-common{a} 
  libgnomekbd8{a} libgweather-3-3{a} libgweather-common{a} 
  libmetacity-private0a{a} libmuffin0{a} libopencv-photo2.4{a} 
  libpanel-applet-4-0{a} libtelepathy-glib0{a} libwnck-3-0{a} 
  libwnck-3-common{a} metacity{a} metacity-common{a} muffin-common{a} 
  nemo-data{a} obexd-client{a} pkg-config{a} python-gconf{a} python-lxml{a} 
  python-opencv{a} python-pam{a} python-pyatspi{a} python-pyinotify{a} 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  alacarte cinnamon-screensaver evolution-data-server gnome-applets 
  gnome-control-center gnome-session gnome-session-bin 
  gnome-session-flashback gnome-terminal hwdata libcanberra-gtk-module 
  mousetweaks nemo 
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby GeneC » 03 Feb 2014 15:22

^ kurotsugi

That is good news. I see cinnamon-session-common. I assume that's what lets you see and choose 'cinnamon' in log on window. I may just give it another try... :P
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby GeneC » 03 Feb 2014 15:56

Hmmm! first try, no good.
'...Failed to load Cinnamon Session.."
Something missing..

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gene@solydc:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends cinnamon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  apg caribou cinnamon-common cinnamon-control-center cinnamon-control-center-data cinnamon-desktop-data
  cinnamon-session cinnamon-session-common cinnamon-settings-daemon cinnamon-translations cjs
  evolution-data-server-common gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 gir1.2-atspi-2.0 gir1.2-caribou-1.0
  gir1.2-cinnamondesktop-3.0 gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0
  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0 gir1.2-muffin-3.0 gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 gir1.2-soup-2.4 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0
  gir1.2-webkit-3.0 gir1.2-xkl-1.0 gkbd-capplet gnome-bluetooth gnome-desktop3-data gnome-menus gnome-panel
  gnome-panel-data libatk-adaptor libcamel-1.2-43 libcanberra-pulse libcaribou-common libcaribou0
  libcinnamon-control-center1 libcinnamon-desktop0 libcjs0c libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libecal-1.2-15 libedataserver-1.2-17
  libgail-common libgee-0.8-2 libgnome-desktop-3-7 libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd8 libgweather-3-3 libgweather-common
  libmuffin0 libpanel-applet-4-0 libwnck-3-0 libwnck-3-common muffin-common nemo-data obexd-client python-lxml
  python-pam python-pyatspi python-pyinotify
Suggested packages:
  gnome-user-share nautilus python-lxml-dbg python-pyinotify-doc
Recommended packages:
  gnome-terminal nemo cinnamon-screensaver gnome-session-bin gir1.2-cjsdbus-1.0 cinnamon-bluetooth mousetweaks
  systemd-services gnome-control-center alacarte evolution-data-server gnome-applets gnome-session
  gnome-session-flashback
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gnome-desktop-data
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  apg caribou cinnamon cinnamon-common cinnamon-control-center cinnamon-control-center-data cinnamon-desktop-data
  cinnamon-session cinnamon-session-common cinnamon-settings-daemon cinnamon-translations cjs
  evolution-data-server-common gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 gir1.2-atspi-2.0 gir1.2-caribou-1.0
  gir1.2-cinnamondesktop-3.0 gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0
  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0 gir1.2-muffin-3.0 gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 gir1.2-soup-2.4 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0
  gir1.2-webkit-3.0 gir1.2-xkl-1.0 gkbd-capplet gnome-bluetooth gnome-desktop3-data gnome-menus gnome-panel
  gnome-panel-data libatk-adaptor libcamel-1.2-43 libcanberra-pulse libcaribou-common libcaribou0
  libcinnamon-control-center1 libcinnamon-desktop0 libcjs0c libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libecal-1.2-15 libedataserver-1.2-17
  libgail-common libgee-0.8-2 libgnome-desktop-3-7 libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd8 libgweather-3-3 libgweather-common
  libmuffin0 libpanel-applet-4-0 libwnck-3-0 libwnck-3-common muffin-common nemo-data obexd-client python-lxml
  python-pam python-pyatspi python-pyinotify
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby GeneC » 03 Feb 2014 16:27

Nope! Aptitude add nothing. Tried adding nemo (it also added nautilus..PLUS ).. :?

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Commit Log for Mon Feb  3 11:16:59 2014


Installed the following packages:
file-roller (3.8.4-1)
gir1.2-clutter-gst-2.0 (2.0.8-1)
gir1.2-evince-3.0 (3.10.0-1+b1)
gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 (1.2.1-2)
gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 (1.2.1-1)
gir1.2-gtksource-3.0 (3.8.2-1)
gnome-sushi (3.8.1-1)
gnustep-base-common (1.22.1-4.2)
gnustep-base-runtime (1.22.1-4.2+b1)
gnustep-common (2.6.2-2.1)
libclutter-gst-2.0-0 (2.0.8-1)
libexempi3 (2.2.1-1)
libgnustep-base1.22 (1.22.1-4.2+b1)
libmusicbrainz5-0 (5.0.1-2)
libnemo-extension1 (2.0.8+lmde)
libneon27-gnutls (0.30.0-1)
libobjc4 (4.8.2-10)
libtracker-sparql-0.16-0 (0.16.2-1+b1)
nautilus (3.8.2-2)
nautilus-data (3.8.2-2)
nemo (2.0.8+lmde)
nemo-fileroller (2.0.0+lmde)
unar (1.8.1-1+b1)
Still broke for me.
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby GeneC » 03 Feb 2014 17:03

I am back to a full Cinnamon 2.0 DE. I does not work for me with (--no recommends). I have to do the full Cinnamon install as per OP.. :cry: (with all the Gnome extras). I did successfully remove nautilus but still have gnome-shell plus a whole lot of unnecessary gnome pkgs.

Workable, but not a completely satisfactory outcome. Lets see what Mint does with Cinnamon 2.0 in LMDE. They are still working on it with their UP8 LMDE.
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 4d399b7128
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby GeneC » 04 Feb 2014 12:57

It appears the issues with many unneeded gnome pkgs being install along with Cinnamon 2.0 (on LMDE) is know by Clem (Mint Dev) and is being worked on.

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 80#p818004

However the
--no-install-recommends option.
does not work on SolydXK (for me). I would suggest to wait a while to see how things sort out at Mint with Cinnamon on LMDE. Things work fine (on SolydX) with all the extra gnome pkgs, but not the best solution. Will be keeping an eye on the Mint forum... ;)
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby civfreak » 06 Mar 2014 06:02

GeneC wrote:Yes, when I installed Cinnamon 2.0 on top of Manjaro XFCE I did not get all of the extra gnome stuff. (shell, nautilus, gnome-control-center, et.). Must be some Gnome pkg in Debian that requires all the extra gnome pkgs.

Actually XFCE has always been my preferred DE. As Hinto said, I get it with not too much tweaking 99.9% of what our old beloved Gnome 2 looked like, and even more functional. I think WhiskerMenu is the best out there of any menu. I've tried every DE or Window Manager I can find, and always go back to XFCE as my workhorse. Adding some 'custom actions' to Thunar makes it just as useful and even quicker to use for me, than Dolphin (lots of power, but needlessly complex as I find most of KDE)... ;)
GeneC, I have to agree with every word above. I have always been a Konqui fan so it was a tough decision for me. But the SolydXK team definitely picked the right two desktops for starters.
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The easy way to get Cinnamon to work on SolydX

Postby Longshot » 02 Apr 2014 00:35

First you open Update Manager, click on Edit, Software Sources, then click on Other Software, then click on Add and put in
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import

Then you open up a Terminal and put in $ sudo aptitude update
Put in your password and let it run.

Then you put in $ sudo aptitude install linuxmint-keyring install cinnamon cinnamon-session cinnamon-settings
Push enter and just follow what it says and say yes when it asks you to.

Reboot your pc and log into Cinnamon, run Update Mangager to update everything and it works just like Cinnamon does in Linux Mint. So far, I have not had any prob's and everything is doing what it should.

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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby zerozero » 02 Apr 2014 00:57

[topics merged, same subject ;) ]
Longshot
glad it's working fine for you.
you'll see, tho, that there was several issues reported not too long ago.
maybe they were solved in the meantime?
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby Longshot » 02 Apr 2014 02:38

Thankyou zerozero. I have been playing with it now for over 4 hours, I have been trying to mess it up, so far the only thing that messed up was getting more themes from online, it froze but when I closed it and opened it back up the full list from online was there and it let me download and apply as many as I wanted with no prob. I will keep messing with it and doing everything I can think of and will let everyone know if I run into any prob's.

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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby Longshot » 15 May 2014 06:44

I been running Cinnamon now for over a month now using the way I described to get it working on SolydX with no problems. I am able to download themes, desklets, applets, and everything else with no problems and they all work as they should. The only thing that did not go 100% was when I downloaded Cinnamon I did not get the sound files that Cinnamon uses for like closing windows and shutting down and so forth. The sound does work, if you go into settings and go into sounds, you are able to use any sound file that is on your computer for the sound actions. I'm sure there is somewhere you can download the Cinnamon sound files but I always turned them off anyway cuz I don't like my computer to make sounds for every little thing I do so this was not a problem for me. Other than not getting the sound files, Cinnamon has worked the same on SolydX as it does in Linux Mint. If you download Cinnamon using the way I described and run into any problems, I will be happy to help in any way I can.

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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby zerozero » 15 May 2014 08:58

Cinnamon is (finally) back on debian :mrgreen:
https://packages.debian.org/experimental/cinnamon
(be careful ;) it's in experimental ATM)
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby joejohnston3 » 15 May 2014 14:32

This is an interesting idea as I really love the Cinnamon DE and may have to give this a try. I am very happy with SokydX but there are a few features in Cinnamon that I love so if it works well it is a nice option for those that like Cinnamon.
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby joejohnston3 » 15 May 2014 15:14

Hi All,

I am fairly new to this stuff and added the link provided to the source list and tried the commands but got errors. Has the process changed for installing Cinnamon? Can anyone list the steps I can use to get this working correctly? I am pretty excited about the possibility of getting this working. Thank you.
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby wayne » 15 May 2014 15:17

joejohnston3 wrote:Hi All,

I am fairly new to this stuff and added the link provided to the source list and tried the commands but got errors. Has the process changed for installing Cinnamon? Can anyone list the steps I can use to get this working correctly? I am pretty excited about the possibility of getting this working. Thank you.


No no, don't try Experimental...
wait for it to filter to Sid... :lol:

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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby joejohnston3 » 15 May 2014 15:24

haha, okay! Like I stated, I am not too seasoned with this stuff but anxious to try it out when possible.
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby joejohnston3 » 15 May 2014 15:59

Please excuse this naive question but why doesn't Cinnamon work properly in Solyd series if it works so well in LMDE since they are both Debian based? I am presuming it is because the LMDE team tweaks and refines its implementation but I was just curious as I would love SolydC to be a reality.
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby Deleted User 2763 » 15 May 2014 16:09

Cinnamon comes from the Mint developers, not Debian.
Debian has to accept it as part of their repos.
It's analogous to Ubuntu creating a fix for their snapshot.
Debian has to accept their fix in order to get it rolled into Debian.
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby joejohnston3 » 15 May 2014 16:30

Thanks for the input and that makes sense.
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Re: SolydC - How to add Cinnamon 2.0 to SolydXK

Postby zerozero » 16 May 2014 10:20

Joe,
if you follow the steps outlined in the 1st post of this topic >> http://forums.solydxk.nl/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2704 you shouldn't have problems;
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