Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

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Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby MAYBL8 » 12 Apr 2013 15:27

Found this.
Would this work to update to latest KDE:
http://news.siduction.org/2013/04/kde-s ... nd-debian/


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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 12 Apr 2013 15:37

Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Hi Dan

Nice find.... :)

going to get snowed in today, so I will give it a shot.... :lol:
If you want to update to KDE SC 4.10.2, you need the line

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deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext unstable main
in your sources.list. Then run

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apt-get update
You will need to add the Siduction archive keyring

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apt-get install siduction-archive-keyring
Now Upgrade

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apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Actual upgrade

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Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libnepomuksync4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kde-base-artwork libkactivities-models1 libkcompactdisc4 libkipi10 libmarblewidget15 libmusicbrainz5-0 libnepomukwidgets4 libokularcore2 libxcb-damage0 libxcb-xfixes0
The following packages will be upgraded:
  akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server ark dolphin dragonplayer freespacenotifier gwenview juk kamera kate kate-data katepart kcalc kde-baseapps kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data
  kde-plasma-desktop kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-standard kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data
  kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdebase-runtime kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdepasswd kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdeplasma-addons kdm kdoctools kfind khelpcenter4 kinfocenter klipper
  kmenuedit kmix konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers ksnapshot ksysguard ksysguardd kwrite libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4
  libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libdlrestrictions1 libgpgme++2 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkateinterfaces4
  libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4abi1 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4
  libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkimproxy4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmediaplayer4
  libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4
  libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libktnef4
  libkunitconversion4 libkutils4 libkwineffects1abi4 libkwinglutils1abi1 libkworkspace4abi2 libkxmlrpcclient4 libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukcore4 libnepomukquery4a
  libnepomukutils4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3 libplasmagenericshell4 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libqgpgme1 libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2
  libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libthreadweaver4 libweather-ion6 marble-data marble-plugins nepomuk-core-data nepomuk-core-runtime okular
  oxygen-icon-theme plasma-containments-addons plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-desktopthemes-artwork plasma-runners-addons
  plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python plasma-scriptengine-ruby plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba plasma-scriptengine-webkit plasma-scriptengines plasma-wallpapers-addons
  plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-lancelot plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace python-kde4 python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-sip siduction-archive-keyring soprano-daemon
  sweeper systemsettings
177 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 230 MB of archives.
After this operation, 26.7 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? [b]Y[/b]
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Good idea to monitor the Siduction forums on this issue...
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 12 Apr 2013 16:05

Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Well!

That could not have been much more seamless.
Upgrade went with no issues.
No bugs reported (apt-listbugs)
Not prompted for anything.
Only issue is that logout/shutdown dialog buttons did not work.
Had to ctrl+alt+backspace to logout/in.
Desktop works ok.

LMDE updated to Solydx UP 201304(with KDE installed on top)

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gene@lmdeup6:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host: lmdeup6 Kernel: 3.8-4.dmz.2-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: KDE 4.10.2 Distro: SolydXK 1 debian
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M4A88TD-M/USB3 version: Rev X.0x Bios: American Megatrends version: 1501 date: 08/09/2012
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 955 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz 3: 800.00 MHz 4: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF104 [GeForce GTX 460] X.Org: 1.12.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1680x1050@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 460/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 313.30
Audio:     Card-1: NVIDIA GF104 High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster driver: snd_ca0106
           Card-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.8-4.dmz.2-liquorix-amd64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 48:5b:39:ee:b9:e7
To re-boot and see if evrything still works.. :P
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Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby MAYBL8 » 12 Apr 2013 16:17

Gene,
If it works for you I will give it a try. Maybe later today. I have some productive work to do before I can experiment and possible break my system.

Do you think or know that with the added repo in the sources.list you would always get the latest KDE?


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Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 12 Apr 2013 16:17

Re-boot and things work..
Things should always be this easy... 8-)

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Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 12 Apr 2013 16:25

MAYBL8 wrote:Gene,
If it works for you I will give it a try. Maybe later today. I have some productive work to do before I can experiment and possible break my system.

Do you think or know that with the added repo in the sources.list you would always get the latest KDE?
Hi Dan... :)
Siduction is sweet.
I am going to keep this repo active, and should get regular KDE updates. I see no issues. I have had the Siduction XFCEnext repo active for several months on my XFCE install to get xfce 4.10 with no issues. I beleive Schoelje get all his xfce 4.10 files from it as well. (not sure on that)?

Thanks for the heads-up... ;)
Everything seems to work fine.
(I would have a recent clone handy....just in case).
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Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby kurok » 12 Apr 2013 19:59

Installed 4.9.5 and all was running well, then i saw this with 4.10.2 and said what the heck it only takes 15 or so mins to reinstall. Well i can tell you it is working well so far, it is using more ram that 4.9.5, and the amarok in the start up menu has lost its icon. Those arent deal breakers for me. Ill let you know if there is any thing else i notice.
Thanks for this.

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Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 12 Apr 2013 20:23

kurok

yes, all seems to be working quite well. I like the new notification displays. Dont use Amarok. Not a heavy KDE user in the past. Never was crazy about the menus (Lancelot seems the best for me), but today just found that xfce application-finder works quite well (Installed kde on top of SolydX).
I use it for a menu in XFCE.

[rimg]http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5062/kde4102.png[/rimg]

Find myself going into XFCE, less and less... :)
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Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby kurok » 12 Apr 2013 20:44

I havent used KDE much since the days of the 3 series loved that desk top. I use xfce mainly now and am loving it. I blew away my 12.o4 install to test and use solydk. I like it alot but still use xfce more. This is an old p4 dual core computer with only 1.2 gigs of ram and an agp nvidia 6200 se. Its old but still chugs along. KDE is a little heavy for it thats why im so impressed with the way it runs.
Man i love solydxk great oses.

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Postby MAYBL8 » 12 Apr 2013 21:00

I did it.

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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby zerozero » 12 Apr 2013 23:08

:lol:
i knew about these 4.10 packages for a few days; saw Santamaria message on april 1st

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José Manuel Santamaría Lema [...] via lists.debian.org 
	
1 Apr (11 days ago)
		
to debian-kde
Hello Marin,

Martin Steigerwald [...]
> Hi!
>
> I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems
> José and others work on KDE SC 4.10.
>
> Are any of these already in a testable state? I may be inclined to build
> some during the free week after the coming week.
>
> Anyway, keep up the good work.
>
> Thanks,

I have switched to siduction[1], this means I will be working providing
packages for that project from now on. The packages of debian's git are almost
ready but they probably need some few changes (some Breaks/Replaces here and
there), I have hacked them a bit and I released them for siduction, While this
packages are meant to be included in that distro, I tried to install them in a
debian machine and they work, you can install them adding this line to your
sources.list or sources.list.d/whatever:
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext experimental-snapshots
and then you can install siduction-archive-keyring and upgrade. Pretty much as
you did with qt-kde.debian.net.

Hint: don't upgrade with the X server running if you are upgrading from 4.9.5,
we got some hangs.

[1] It's a rolling release based on debian sid, so no freezes because they are
not needed.
the topic on the mailing list goes on and on and at some point looks promising; a few days ago i made a "testing" upgrade in a disposable partition and yesterday did the same in one of my "to keep" systems

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Start-Date: 2013-04-11  21:19:05
Commandline: synaptic
Install: siduction-archive-keyring:amd64 (2013.03.29)
End-Date: 2013-04-11  21:19:07

Start-Date: 2013-04-11  21:34:04
Install: libxcb-damage0:amd64 (1.8.1-2, automatic), liblastfm-fingerprint1:amd64 (1.0.7-1, automatic), libkasten2okteta1gui1:amd64 (4.10.2-0r0~siduction1, automatic), libkasten2okteta1controllers1:amd64 (4.10.2-0r0~siduction1, automatic), libmarblewidget15:amd64 (4.10.2-1~siduction1, automatic), kio-audiocd:amd64 (4.10.2-1~siduction1, automatic), libokularcore2:amd64 (4.10.2-1, automatic), clamz:amd64 (0.5-1, automatic), print-manager:amd64 (4.10.2-1+siduction1, automatic), libkasten2controllers2:amd64 (4.10.2-0r0~siduction1, automatic), libkcompactdisc4:amd64 (4.10.2-2~siduction1, automatic), libkasten2core2:amd64 (4.10.2-0r0~siduction1, automatic), libkasten2gui2:amd64 (4.10.2-0r0~siduction1, automatic), libkasten2okteta1core1:amd64 (4.10.2-0r0~siduction1, automatic), libkipi10:amd64 (4.10.2-1, automatic), libkdcraw22:amd64 (4.10.2-2~siduction1, automatic), libmusicbrainz5-0:amd64 (5.0.1-2, automatic), liblastfm1:amd64 (1.0.7-1, automatic), libktorrent5:amd64 (1.3.1-1, automatic), libkactivities-models1:amd64 (4.10.2-0r0~siduction1, automatic), kde-base-artwork:amd64 (4.10.2-1~siduction1, automatic), libnepomukwidgets4:amd64 (4.10.2-1~siduction1, automatic)
Upgrade: libkresources4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), libokteta1gui1:amd64 (4.8.4+dfsg-1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), plasma-desktopthemes-artwork:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-0r0+siduction1), ksystemlog:amd64 (4.8.4-3, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), libkprintutils4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), krdc:amd64 (4.8.4-1+b1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), krfb:amd64 (4.8.4-1+b1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), kdesdk:amd64 (4.8.4+dfsg-1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libkldap4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), kscd:amd64 (4.8.4-2, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), kppp:amd64 (4.8.4-1+b1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libktnef4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), krita-data:amd64 (2.4.4-3, 2.6.2-1~siduction1), kdeartwork-style:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-0r0+siduction1), libkonq5-templates:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), kipi-plugins:amd64 (2.6.0-1+b2, 2.9.0-3+kdetrunk2), kcharselect:amd64 (4.8.4-2, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), freespacenotifier:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), calligra-libs:amd64 (2.4.4-3, 2.6.2-1~siduction1), kde-baseapps:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libksane0:amd64 (4.8.4-1, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), cervisia:amd64 (4.8.4+dfsg-1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), kdeartwork-theme-window:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-0r0+siduction1), libkcalcore4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), libktorrent-l10n:amd64 (1.2.1-1, 1.3.1-1), kruler:amd64 (4.8.4-1, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), kipi-plugins-common:amd64 (2.6.0-1, 2.9.0-3+kdetrunk2), libkxmlrpcclient4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), plasma-containments-addons:amd64 (4.9.5-0r3, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), kde-baseapps-bin:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), svgpart:amd64 (4.8.4-1, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), kdegraphics-thumbnailers:amd64 (4.8.4-1, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), rekonq:amd64 (0.9.2-1, 2.2.1-1~siduction1), libkholidays4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), libknewstuff2-4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), ktorrent-data:amd64 (4.2.1-1, 4.3.1-1), kde-workspace-data:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libknewstuff3-4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libkwinglutils1abi1:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), plasma-netbook:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), ksnapshot:amd64 (4.8.4-1, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), plasma-wallpapers-addons:amd64 (4.9.5-0r3, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libkexiv2-data:amd64 (4.8.4-1, 4.10.2-1), libkipi-data:amd64 (4.8.4-1, 4.10.2-1), libkdeclarative5:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libnepomukquery4a:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), konqueror-nsplugins:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), nepomuk-core-data:amd64 (4.9.5-0r0, 4.10.2-1~siduction2), kde-standard:amd64 (78~pre2, 78+siduction3), calligra:amd64 (2.4.4-3, 2.6.2-1~siduction1), libplasma-geolocation-interface4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), kde-workspace-bin:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), kde-workspace-dev:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libweather-ion6:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libkonq-common:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), gwenview:amd64 (4.8.4-2, 4.10.2-1), kde-icons-mono:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-0r0+siduction1), libthreadweaver4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libkdecore5:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), braindump:amd64 (2.4.4-3, 2.6.2-1~siduction1), libnepomukutils4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libktexteditor4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libkmediaplayer4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), umbrello:amd64 (4.8.4+dfsg-1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), kcalc:amd64 (4.8.4-2, 4.10.2-1~siduction1), plasma-scriptengine-python:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), krita:amd64 (2.4.4-3, 2.6.2-1~siduction1), kdeplasma-addons:amd64 (4.9.5-0r3, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), oxygen-icon-theme:amd64 (4.9.5-0r0, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), libakonadi-kmime4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r2, 4.10.2-1+siduction1), libavogadro1:amd64 (1.0.3-5, 1.0.3-5+b0~siduction1), plasma-scriptengine-javascript:amd64 (4.9.5-0r1, 4.10.2-0r0~siduction1), klipper:amd64 (4.9.5-0r5, 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Remove: liblastfm-fingerprint0:amd64 (0.4.0~git20090710-2), libnepomuksync4:amd64 (4.9.5-0r0), kthesaurus:amd64 (2.4.4-3), kdemultimedia-kio-plugins:amd64 (4.8.4-2)
End-Date: 2013-04-11  21:41:07
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but:
- i'm not totally convinced (and is not only the stability of the system); my main concern here is how is this going to pan out with future debian updates when they arrive;
- also, these packages are not debian certified although they were made by Santamaria (and this is other issue: debian kde loses another maintainer, as if they were that many)
- i wouldn't install 4.10 (i wouldn't even install 4.9.5) in a production machine; both are nice additions for tweakers ;)
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 12 Apr 2013 23:32

zerozero wrote: :lol:
i knew about these 4.10 packages for a few days; saw Santamaria message on april 1st

[...]

but:
- i'm not totally convinced (and is not only the stability of the system); my main concern here is how is this going to pan out with future debian updates when they arrive;
- also, these packages are not debian certified although they were made by Santamaria (and this is other issue: debian kde loses another maintainer, as if they were that many)
- i wouldn't install 4.10 (i wouldn't even install 4.9.5) in a production machine; both are nice additions for tweakers ;)
I knew you would be on top of this.
But, who can resist... :?: ... :lol:

Good idea to monitor the Siduction forums on this issue...
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby zerozero » 13 Apr 2013 00:58

8-)
actually i'm on it at the moment :lol:

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zerozero@deb-kde ~ $ kde4-config --version; uname -a; lsb_release -a
Qt: 4.8.2
KDE Development Platform: 4.10.2
kde4-config: 1.0
Linux deb-kde 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	SolydXK
Description:	SolydK
Release:	1
Codename:	debian
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby cwwgateway » 13 Apr 2013 16:12

Wow, this is exciting. I wasn't particularly pleased with the Neptune repo method, but I'm willing to try out siduction repos (they tend to work fairly well, although they are bleeding edge). I'm going to try this out in VBox first, and then possibly upgrade my SolydK install (going to do lots of backups today, so afterwards I'll upgrade).

The difference between this and xfcenext (which is what Schoelje used for Xfce 4.10) is the xfce next repo was using packages basically straight from experimental (with the edition of plugins). They were basically Debian packages, so they probably were going to have a clean upgrade path. These packages are much less official (not that the other ones were), and they weren't copied from any Debian repo AFAIK. However, I'm willing to bet that these packages are at least intended to have a clean upgrade path to Debian packages.

It is kind of sad that Debian KDE is losing maintainers...

But KDE 4.10 was supposed to be a great release (saw lots of raving about it), and it ran nicely on Arch (only tried it briefly). I'm excited to finally be able to use it on Debian :twisted:
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 13 Apr 2013 16:15

But is it good enough to add to the SolydXK repository, just as I did with Xfce 4.10?
What are the risks if I'd do so?


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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby cwwgateway » 13 Apr 2013 16:47

Schoelje wrote:But is it good enough to add to the SolydXK repository, just as I did with Xfce 4.10?
What are the risks if I'd do so?
I haven't tested this out (was about to reboot and make a backup when I got the post notification). However, I think there are a few things we need to consider:
  • Can these packages safely upgrade to Debian packages once KDE 4.10 naturally migrates into Debian?
  • How long will it be until KDE 4.10 naturally migrates? If it's going to be soon, then it may not be worth the risk. Obviously there are lots of variables, so we can only guess
  • How buggy are these packages? KDE 4.8 is very stable (it'll be in a Debian Stable release).
  • Could we have more people test this without committing to including it?
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby Arjen Balfoort » 13 Apr 2013 17:01

I can answer the last one:
If I get a list of all packages that I need to download from siduction, I can add them to SolydXK's experimental or testing repository.


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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 13 Apr 2013 18:03

Schoelje wrote:
But is it good enough to add to the SolydXK repository, just as I did with Xfce 4.10?
What are the risks if I'd do so?
'zerozero' doesn't think so.
HERE

I have no concerns personally. Siduction is cutting edge, but also pretty 'bleeding' edge., but I tend to be an experimenter. I agree with him that it may not be the right choice for you vision of SolydXK (a very stable system). That said, I have been using siduction xfcenext on LMDE for a year with no issues.

I monitor their forum on this HERE, but not something I would guess your average user will want to do. If something breaks I re-install a recent (weekly) clone.

It certainly is something to think about, though. The latest version of ANY software/desktop/et certainly is a draw for new users to SolydXK... ;)
I've been playing with it for a day now, with no issues. Probably my imagination.. :? , but it seems more responsive than 4.9.5.
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby cwwgateway » 13 Apr 2013 18:16

A note for the tutorial itself is you need to install the siduction keryring:

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$ wget http://packages.siduction.org/base/pool/main/s/siduction-archive-keyring/siduction-archive-keyring_2013.03.29_all.deb
$ sudo dpkg -i siduction-archive-keyring_2013.03.29_all.deb
$ rm siduction-archive-keyring_2013.03.29_all.deb
$ sudo apt-get update
Do this after adding the siduction sources.

Edit: Wrong URL for the keyring (the URL was for the previous keyring).
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Re: Upgrade SolydK to KDE SC 4.10.2

Postby GeneC » 13 Apr 2013 18:26

Hi 'cww'

I think your going to like 4.10.2... :mrgreen:

You lost me on the keyring. I did not have to install it myself as I had it installed for xfcenext.

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ene@lmdeup6:~$ apt-cache policy siduction-archive-keyring
siduction-archive-keyring:
  Installed: 2013.03.29
  Candidate: 2013.03.29
  Version table:
 *** 2013.03.29 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Please feel free to edit my post if it needs correcting. I would, but not quite sure what you mean... I had mentioned to install the keyring.

Before updating.!!
You will have to add the Siduction keyring as well (I had it installed for XFCEnext).

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apt-get install siduction-archive-keyring
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