Breakages and News tracking Debian Testing

[MAYBL8]

Grizzler,
I am working just fine after doing the 227 update:

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dcihon@solydk64 ~ $ systemctl --version
systemd 227
+PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +APPARMOR +SMACK +SYSVINIT +UTMP +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +GNUTLS +ACL +XZ -LZ4 +SECCOMP +BLKID -ELFUTILS +KMOD -IDN

Might be an installer issue as stated in the link you posted.
But as always do a backup just in case.

[grizzler]

What does the symlink /etc/mtab on your machine point to? Mine does not point to /proc/self/mounts so I expected trouble, as indicated in the bug report.

[MAYBL8]

dcihon@solydk64 ~ $ cd /etc/mtab
bash: cd: /etc/mtab: Not a directory

[Zill]

MAYBL8:

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ls -l /etc/mtab

[MAYBL8]

dcihon@solydk64 ~ $ ls -l /etc/mtab
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 14 2014 /etc/mtab -> /proc/mounts

[kurotsugi]

AFAIK that file was created during installation so as long as /proc/mounts exist it should works fine on updated machines :3

our /etc/mtab is linked to /proc/mounts but /proc/mounts is a symlink to /proc/self/mounts so as long as /etc/mtab is a symlink to one of them it should work fine. IMO the bug reported filed the bug to systemd since the system can't boot. he can't figure what is causing the problem so he blame the one responsible for boot process (which is, unfortunately, systemd). however, as indicated on the discussion the problem actually lies on debian installer.

that being said, this part made me curious

Downgrading to libsystemd0 and systemd packages to 226-4 resolves the
issue and makes machine bootable. An inelegant but effective workaround.

There is a parallel discussion of this issue on the systemd github
project [2]. Although there is a mistake; 215-17+deb8u2 is actually
227-2.

there might a chance that it is indeed a problem from systemd. my system works fine with the latest systemd but perhaps we need to keep watch on the bugreport discussion and user feedback.

[grizzler]

As expected, a newly built SolydXK EE ISO with systemd 227 crashes irrecoverably.

Someone somewhere messed up in a very bad way.

Edit
Simply removing the file /etc/mtab from the ISO build structure appears to be enough to handle that problem. Unfortunately, I then ran into another issue, which also renders any new EE ISO unbootable. Turns out the latest change of the live-config package messes things up. But that's a topic for a separate thread...

[belze]

QT5.5 transitions has started in sid. Be aware of your dist-upgrades next days.
https://release.debian.org/transitions/ ... 5-5-1.html

[Chris M]

Did a apt-get dist-upgrade today, 10/24/15, tracking sid:

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Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libunique-1.0-0 xfce4-mixer
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libasound2-plugins libavresample-ffmpeg2 libfftw3-single3 libkeybinder-3.0-0
  libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulsedsp libspeexdsp1
  libwebrtc-audio-processing-0 libxfce4panel-2.0-4 libxfce4ui-2-0 pavucontrol
  pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils rtkit
  xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
The following packages will be upgraded:
  xfce4
1 upgraded, 16 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,744 kB of archives.
After this operation, 11.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
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Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libavresample-ffmpeg2 amd64 7:2.8.1-1 [77.2 kB]
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Get:7 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libpulse-mainloop-glib0 amd64 7.0-1 [30.8 kB]
Get:8 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libpulsedsp amd64 7.0-1 [40.5 kB]
Get:9 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libxfce4panel-2.0-4 amd64 4.12.0-3 [195 kB]
Get:10 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libxfce4ui-2-0 amd64 4.12.1-2 [101 kB]
Get:11 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main pavucontrol amd64 3.0-3+b2 [112 kB]
Get:12 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main pulseaudio-utils amd64 7.0-1 [70.1 kB]
Get:13 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main pulseaudio amd64 7.0-1 [1,034 kB]
Get:14 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main pulseaudio-module-x11 amd64 7.0-1 [35.6 kB]
Get:15 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main rtkit amd64 0.11-3 [33.4 kB]
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root@asus:/# apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable InRelease
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  libunique-1.0-0 xfce4-mixer
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
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  libunique-1.0-0 xfce4-mixer
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
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root@asus:/# apt-get autoremove
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As you can see, ibunique-1.0-0 and xfce4-mixer were deprecated, and pulseaudio was installed. Pulseaudio may already be included in SolydX, so this may mean nothing for most here. But for anyone with a pure sid debian installation, upgrading xfce4 removes xfce4-mixer in favor of pulseaudio. When I attempted to remove xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, synaptic wanted to remove xfce4.

I don't think this was intended by debian.

Edit:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=785846

Pulseaudio plugin was ACCEPTED today, so I've just pushed a xfce4 package with xfce4-mixer dependency replaced by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin.

Read the entire thread. xfce4-mixer could make a comeback. They're having problems with gstreamer1.0, so Perez intentionally pushed out xfce4-mixer in favor of pulseaudio.

[kurotsugi]

last time i checked xfce4-mixer is still on sid. apt want to remove it because xfce4 change the dependency to xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin. however, user could keep xfce4-mixer by marking xfce4-mixer as manually installed package.

[kurotsugi]

somehow xfce's power manager seems broken and unable to suspend my system. it broke since last week but I didn't realize it until yesterday. when the time runs out it ask my root password and shows "dbus error" message. I'm not sure why or when did it broke but fortunately it's quite easy to fix. though, it takes quite a time to figure the solution

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[fix suspend]
Identity=unix-user:*
Action=org.freedesktop.login1.suspend*
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes
ResultActive=yes

simply create this custom file into your polkit rule or modify "/usr/share/polkit-1/action/org.freedesktop.login1.policy", go to "org.freedesktip.login1.suspend" part and change all the policy to yes. I directly modify the one in /usr since I want to follow upstream changes.

the intriguing part is that the original setting was

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<defaults>
                        <allow_any>auth_admin_keep</allow_any>
                        <allow_inactive>auth_admin_keep</allow_inactive>
                        <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
                </defaults>

with this setting power manager should have enough adminstrative power to suspend my system. but apparently, it's not. moreover power manager actually have it's own policy setting "org.xfce.power.policy" which contain

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE policyconfig PUBLIC
 "-//freedesktop//DTD PolicyKit Policy Configuration 1.0//EN"
 "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/PolicyKit/1.0/policyconfig.dtd">
<policyconfig>

  

  <vendor>XFCE Power Manager</vendor>
  <vendor_url>http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-power-manager</vendor_url>
  <icon_name>battery</icon_name>

  <action id="org.xfce.power.backlight-helper">
    
    <description>Modify the laptop display brightness</description>
    <message>Authentication is required to modify the laptop display brightness</message>
    <defaults>
      <allow_any>no</allow_any>
      <allow_inactive>no</allow_inactive>
      <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
    </defaults>
    <annotate key="org.freedesktop.policykit.exec.path">/usr/sbin/xfpm-power-backlight-helper</annotate>
  </action>

  <action id="org.xfce.power.xfce4-pm-helper">
    
    <description>Suspend or hibernate the system</description>
    <message>Authentication is required to place the system in suspend or hibernate mode</message>
    <defaults>
      <allow_any>auth_admin</allow_any>
      <allow_inactive>auth_admin</allow_inactive>
      <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
    </defaults>
    <annotate key="org.freedesktop.policykit.exec.path">/usr/sbin/xfce4-pm-helper</annotate>
  </action>

</policyconfig>

I also thought that this policy setting should be enough and power manager should refer to this file instead of looking into "org.freedesktop.login1.policy".

[MAYBL8]

First qt5 library hit my dist upgrade and broke KDE.
qt5 has begun.
Let's have fun.

[belze]

First qt5 library hit my dist upgrade and broke KDE.
qt5 has begun.
Let's have fun.

i read it too late! kde and most of kde-apps broken (segfault)!
if you have plasma desktop DO NOT DIST-UPGRADE!
edit: WORKAROUND - install qt5 from sid. I can now use plasma. (not yet lxqt-session)

[MAYBL8]

New qt5 updates today have fixed my KDE5 crashes.

[kurotsugi]

this is interesting. taken from the apt-listchanges.

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xorg-server (2:1.17.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  The Xorg server is no longer setuid root by default.  This change reduces the
  risk of privilege escalation due to X server bugs, but has some side effects:

  * it relies on logind and libpam-systemd
  * it relies on a kernel video driver (so the userspace component doesn't
    touch the hardware directly)
  * it needs X to run on the virtual console (VT) it was started from
  * it changes the location for storing the Xorg log from /var/log/ to
    ~/.local/share/xorg/

  On systems where those are not available, the new xserver-xorg-legacy package
  is needed to allow X to run with elevated privileges.  See the
  Xwrapper.config(5) manual page for configuration details.

 -- Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>  Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:54:11 +0000

[MAYBL8]

Anyone heard of this Debian Testing Distro:
http://sparkylinux.org/

[nuts2u]

I have heard of SparkyLinux. In fact I've been running it a vm for the past nine months, it tracks Debian testing and has not broken yet. If SolydXK ever goes away, I'm going to move to Sparky.

[MAYBL8]

I have this bug right now with using sddm.
I have switched to lightdm.
https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/496

Edit:
I might be the only one with this problem.
Looks like it is specific to my setup:

Black buffer around desktop, GTX 650 Ti, nvidia 355.11, kernel 4.2.2
Posted on 19-10-2015 0:35 in Computer development

Black buffer around desktop, GTX 650 Ti, nvidia 355.11, kernel 4.2.2

Seeing something similar (likeky) on the VGA output since the 355 driver. DVI is not affected, but VGA only fills like 4:3 on a 16:10 screen.
The resolution (1440x900) is ok and so is the monitor. Also (and that may be a difference?) if I pass the screen a 4:3 resolution (XGA) the monitor stretches it (by setting) across the entire panel.

=> I suspect a bug in the nvidia driver, affecting the analog output.

[kurotsugi]

on my case qjackctl and wine-development is broken. qjackctl seems actually fine but I got reluctant since apt want to remove some qt stuff. wine-development, on the other hand, is broke by design https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo ... bug=803778 the maintainer deliberately broke it. he said "OK, I'll broke this one and fix later" but it still broken for days :3

...however, there are other reason why did these stuff broken on my system...and that was because I'm on sid

anyway, the gstreamer removal transition seems stuck for more than 2 weeks. does anyone know what happened. I'm a lil bit concerned since some of xfce stuff will got affected by the removal and some of my favourite program are still depends on it.

[MAYBL8]

I have a complicated problem in testing.
I will do my best to explain it.
First here is my Graphics Card information:

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Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF119 [GeForce GT 610] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:104a
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.3 driver: nouveau Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVD9 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes

My system will work fine with the nouveau driver, Plymouth will work fine, sddm will work fine.

What I want to do is use the proprietary nvidia driver for debian testing.
When I try to use it I get a variety of issues from the system not booting up unless I remove the 'splash' from grub, not getting sddm to work or maybe one screen works.
Also removing nouveau seems to be an almost impossible task. I was able to do it once and I don't remember exactly how I did it.
I know nvidia drivers won't install without the nouveau being removed.
I hope I have not confused anyone.
This probably has to do with being in testing. So I don't know if what I am trying to do will work at all and I should just be happy with using nouvea where everything works.
Thanks
Dan