4k Monitor: does it make sense?

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4k Monitor: does it make sense?

Postby palimmo » 11 Aug 2019 10:23

Hi,
I'm going to buy a new monitor (something between 27' and 31') soon.
It will be used mainly connected to my laptop to stream movies and do sometimes office stuffs. I am not a gamer or graphic editor.

a) Does it make sense to spend more and buy a 4k monitor over a 1080p? (budget: max. 250€)
Is the difference on a 27'-31' monitor watching full screen movies (ca. 2m away from the screen) noticeable?

b) Right now I do not think many stream services or tv channels provide a 4k resolution. Will it be in the near future?

c) My actual laptop probably doesn't even have enough resources to stream 4k. Am I wrong?

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Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Packard Bell product: EasyNote TJ65 v: 0100 
  serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Packard Bell model: SJV50MV v: Rev serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix 
  v: 1.28 date: 10/06/2009 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 2.6 Wh condition: 2.8/48.6 Wh (6%) 
  model: Panasonic AS09A51 status: Unknown 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Pentium T4300 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn 
  rev: A L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 8378 
  Speed: 1197 MHz min/max: 1200/2100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1582 2: 1719 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA G98M [GeForce G 105M] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
  driver: nvidia v: 340.107 bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa 
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  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce G 105M/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.107 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.0-55-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom and subsidiaries NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: tg3 v: 3.137 port: 2000 
  bus ID: 02:00.0 
  IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: ath9k v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
  IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 108.19 GiB (36.3%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0 
  size: 298.09 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 9.90 GiB used: 7.37 GiB (74.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda8 
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Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 65.0 C mobo: 65.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 66 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 166 Uptime: 26m Memory: 3.85 GiB used: 1.02 GiB (26.5%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.20 
  inxi: 3.0.32 
d) Soon I'll buy a new laptop as well. What should I pay attention to?

e) HDMI 2.0: does it make a substantial difference over 1.4? Should I avoid monitors with only 1.4 HDMI?

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Re: 4k Monitor: does it make sense?

Postby ilu » 11 Aug 2019 11:33

palimmo wrote:
11 Aug 2019 10:23
a) Does it make sense to spend more and buy a 4k monitor over a 1080p? (budget: max. 250€)
True 4k starts at 600 Euro. There are some resolutions below it that are also branded "4k" by marketing.
palimmo wrote:
11 Aug 2019 10:23
Is the difference on a 27'-31' monitor watching full screen movies (ca. 2m away from the screen) noticeable?
Probably. I'd prefer good quality over any "4k" label marketing. Look at what other customers say. https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?ca ... f=11939_27 is a good site.
palimmo wrote:
11 Aug 2019 10:23
b) Right now I do not think many stream services or tv channels provide a 4k resolution. Will it be in the near future?
Depends on your country, your streaming provider, your contract and how much you are willing to pay.
palimmo wrote:
11 Aug 2019 10:23
c) My actual laptop probably doesn't even have enough resources to stream 4k. Am I wrong?
No, you are right.
palimmo wrote:
11 Aug 2019 10:23
e) HDMI 2.0: does it make a substantial difference over 1.4? Should I avoid monitors with only 1.4 HDMI?
No idea.
palimmo wrote:
11 Aug 2019 10:23
d) Soon I'll buy a new laptop as well. What should I pay attention to?
Depends on your priorities: Do you need mobility? If not: why a laptop - why not a mini pc? Mini PCs have more power for less money and, since they are often optimized for streaming, have graphics that can handle 4k. You can still use your old laptop for mobile office tasks.

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Re: 4k Monitor: does it make sense?

Postby palimmo » 11 Aug 2019 11:50

Thanks Ilu.
ilu wrote: have graphics that can handle 4k.
What should I pay attention to?
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Re: 4k Monitor: does it make sense?

Postby kurotsugi » 11 Aug 2019 13:30

I'd say, buy a good 1080p monitor and save for better hardwares. the law of diminishing return means that it's hard to differentiate between 1080p and 4k. your chips will struggle with 1080p anyway. you might ended up with downscaling your resolution to 1080p or even 720p which I believe was the design for your chip

a) keep on eye on the pixel density and the refresh rate. you'll want something near 240ppi to get a good result. as for the refresh rate, 60hz is standard but 120hz is lot more comfortable to see

b) the current "standard" is 1080p for user side. the video industries is pushing for 4k but the hardware mostly only capable for 1080p 120hz. the 4k is indeed becoming a new standard, but it is on production side where people need highest resolution as possible. in the end they'll either crop or downscaling it to 1080p

c) you can check the maximum resolution on your display. note the the number after x, ex: [xxxx] x 720. it means your display is 720p. if you want a 4k-ish display, you'll want something higher than 1080. AFAIK there are some variation on the pixel size so I can't say the exact number

d) make sure that your laptop support at least 1080p

e) AFAIK 4K display only supported on hdmi 2.0. hdmi 1.4 only stream upto 1080p. CMIIW. it doesn't really matter if you pick 1080p

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Re: 4k Monitor: does it make sense?

Postby palimmo » 12 Aug 2019 13:51

Are these 2 options worthwhile?

HP 27fw silber/weiß Monitor (1920x1080/16:9/5ms/2x HDMI /1x VGA/AMD FreeSync) 159€
https://cdn.expert.de/e6/60/78/3688afa4 ... 109591.pdf


ACER Nitro RG270bmiix Gaming-Monitor (1920x1080/IPS/1ms/75 HZ/2x HDMI/Zero Frame/Freesync/Lautsprecher) 179€
https://cdn.expert.de/59/a3/4b/b473ed85 ... 104530.pdf
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